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I am clearly either a INTP or INTJ
From reading the bits about the types I would go a little more with the INTJ
What is yours..
Though if you are at all paraniod the test really DOES tell folks a lot about you .so discretion may be advisable if you do not want others to know you pretty well.
Follow Ups:
turns out I am an INTJ, just 3% of men are INTJs.
Famous INTJs include Hillary Clinton, Al Gore, Bill Gates, Dwight Eisenhower, Alan Greenspan, Ulysses S. Grant, Stephen Hawking, John Maynard Keynes, Ayn Rand, Isaac Asimov, Lewis Carroll, Cormac McCarthy, and Sir Isaac Newton.
although I've been beaten down by the system so much that I'll probably never be allowed to use my full potential.
nt
There are 16 tests!? What if I'm ADD and can only finish one of them? Does that immediately label me?
I was going to add a couple more thoughts, but I saw something shiny out the window. Must go investigate.
:)
two arbitrary / poorly defined attributes, behaviours or values. Usually supposed to be at opposite ends of a scale.
Each of these questions is repeated at least once - IIRC from my at least seven experiences of this 'research' - but in a different way. To check up on you.
I suppose it's a useful way of defining an employees operating style, but not how effective you are.
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
Most of the questions posed are unanswerable, there is no reason why one can only be either 'supportive' or 'logical' but not both to a large degree or be very 'productive' while being very 'creative'.
Actually IMO being highly productive is inextricably linked to being highly creative. I have never met anybody who is creative but not productive, it's the same thing viewed from a different standpoint.
mentioned in my post further down this thread.
Email me via AA?
Have begun recording live concerts for Artsound FM in simple 2-mike stereo.
We use either 2 Rode NT5s on a stereo bar - or a single NT4 - into Marantz digital solid-state memory recorders. I think, they may have hard disks, but may not, also.
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
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...with my moon in Sagitarius and my stocks in the toilet.
and about personality type testing. I have done at least 6 Myers-Briggs tests. Mostly I'm an ENTP, that's IIRC."they may have little patience for people who can't keep up" LOL.
Truity thought I was an EN T or EN F and both a J and a P. Makes me wonder how 'real' these supposed continuums are. Knowing that all classifications are arbitrary is prime here for me. ? Yes Virginia, Plato's ideals are twaddle!
A simple version? Mules are real and so the ideal horse and ideal donkey don't exist.
One of the stand-out howler questions to me in Myers-Briggs/etc is 'do you prefer working with logical or creative people?' For me this gets a middle answer.
Because I am a creative person and a logical one, passionately.
This lies in the area of being able to envision coming changes and build to meet them. I saw the internet coming and kept bugging my employer the Health Insurance Commission to get with it. And, they did. Thousands of Australians every day do not have to queue to receive rebates for payments to health-care professionals. If they have made the arrangements the rebates will be paid back into their nominated accounts. Both via the public health care rebates and the private funds (HMO? in USA). Also, the ISO adopted our logical model on electronic prescribing in 1997. So did HL7 / ANSI the same year. This also required logic. To both argue the case for change with creative ideas and images, and to build it all.
The use of the word 'objective' against 'emotional' in the test is also 'objectionable' - see my posts on "objectivity". In brief most of you have a serious misconception about objectivity. Being value-free about decisions just isn't it - because none of us ever are - it isn't possible. Being as value-rich as possible is the only way to approach objectivity.
A related thought is that psychology, economics, and sociology etc are different to physics, chemistry, engineering, electronics (even for audio) which are 'precise' sciences, and the former are 'hard' to do / to get valid info to act on.
I prefer this usage to, 'hard' science and 'soft' science, partly because it critiques that current usage. ;-)!
The implication of that logical/creative question in the Myers Briggs test is that creative people are at worst the kind of people satirized in the book and TV series by Douglas Adams - The Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy. In particular the episode where that space ship with all the 'useless' advertisers, marketing and Public relations wankers, sent away to sail around for ever - has crashed on a planet, and the two main protagonists briefly consider helping them and give up. Acidly cruel, and fair too. In short the continuum or differences implicit in these tests may be baseless. They are certainly arbitrary anyway.
See the Criticism section of the Wikipedia page/link below for even more. A quote - "91.5% of psychiatry/psychology studies confirmed the effects they were looking for," In the precise sciences this would be MOST unlikely.
Noting that I am not at all opposed to valid information on which we can act - but it is plain to me that ABX blind testing in audio just does carry similar confirmation bias risks, in addition to and extending out of the issues of error in hypothesis testing. Unlike most here I'm not only trained in statistics but have used the skills professionally, to persuade government.
LBNL I know I'm a difficult, argumentative, driven, PITA. But I've come to be happy about it!
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
Edits: 06/30/13 07/01/13 07/01/13
I am, too. As far as the MBTI is concerned, I'm more than sceptical--I think it's mostly nonsense. The categories aren't opposites, they're not contraries, and I don't think they make sense. I took the MBTI about 15 years ago sponsored by my employer and thought the same then. There was a nice young woman who had had training in MBTI, but she had no idea how the tests were actually developed.
Truity can't make up its mind what my type is: INFP, ISFJ, ISFP, or INFJ.
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"A fool and his money are soon parted." --- Thomas Tusser
Psychatrists are a hoot. They like to guess at stuff and pretend they have a good reason. It is all maybes..
Though I would guess is a guy is running around naked with someone elses' bloody cut off head and claiming he is Jesus.. Then they can say he is nuts. At least probably nuts.. Though any three of them would be arguing what KIND of nuts..
Maybe if I practice, I'll be able to add the last two...
Signed,
Greg, Bill, George, Dan, John, Rick, Jim, Mike, Andrew, Mark, Bob, Tim, Harriet and Rex, the Wonder Pig :o)
Very funny Gak!
Owyergoin', orright?!
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
Sorry for the tardy reply. I enjoyed your response to Elizabeth, and found myself nodding (sometimes vigorously) in agreement.
Truity had me straddling the fence between introversion and extroversion (Ambiversion? Ambivalence?), but solidly NFJ... which makes me, according to them, the oddest of the ducks in the pond. That can't possibly be right, can it? Don't ask my wife ;o)
We've been very busy here, of late. Since March, we've been planning a move from Cape Cod (Massachusetts) to East-Central Vermont. Instead of being 90 minutes south of Boston, we'll be two hours west.
I never recovered the vision I lost last March, so I've not been able to return to surgery. We had no real ties to Cape Cod; we'd moved to the area two years ago for my practice opportunity. The hunt for a new career was not going well for me, so my wife opted to return to work as an RN. We've both had active duty military careers, and Millie had worked in a Veterans Administration hospital in the past. She wanted to return to caring for Vets... you certainly understand that call to action. Long story short, she'll be starting at the VA in White River Junction, VT on 29 July! I've applied for a position there, as well. We'll see how that goes.
We've logged thousands of miles and countless hours looking for a house with good schools for our two kids, yet reasonably close to the VA. Just as we'd decided to end our search and rent for a year, we found a house with some acreage, one mile from the schools we wanted, and 13 miles to the VA. The kids are really looking forward to raising some goats and chickens, and Millie will finally have the space to make her dream garden.
Our house is currently awash in packing boxes and bubble wrap, as we try to get everything ready for the move. Buttercup, our pussycat, is decidedly unamused by the proceedings, and has been lodging very vocal complaints with "The Management" on a regular basis, whenever she dares leave the safety of her hiding place under our bed.
We close the sale on our Vermont house on 8 July. On 9 July, we meet the movers back in Cape Cod to pack out our belongings. 10 July will find us in Vermont again to throw the stuff into our new house, then it's back to the Cape for some final cleanup on our rental home on the 11th, in order to surrender the property to the owner on the 12th, then back to our new Vermont digs. It makes me tired just to think about it!
Take care,
Greg
Please have a hug for all of you, including puss.
Soon I hope to be able to find a way to send out samples of my recordings of concerts.
I had missed that you are/were a surgeon?
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
Also Introvert/ Sensor/ Feeler/ Judger.
Wonder if these are good!
Good test.
Cheers
Bill
on the border
ET
I was confused by the word blunt.
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reelsmith's axiom: Its going to be used equipment when I sell it, so it may as well be used equipment when I buy it.
Me too. I didn't agree with all of their desriptions of my personality though I answered the questions as honestly as I could.
See ya. Dave
"High Fidelity audio has been like a dog chasing his tail. High Fidelity in my marriage has been much more rewarding cause she knows where I sleep."
Edits: 06/30/13 06/30/13
enjoy?!
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
between ISFJ & INFJ
"Man is the only animal that blushes - or needs to" Mark Twain
that's all I'm saying.
"Once this was all Black Plasma and Imagination" - Michael McClure
How about that?
I'm a bit uncomfortable with the label 'Mastermind', (seems a lot to live up to!)but I feel totally at ease with the descriptions. I'm troubled by the fact that I didn't finish college and instead decided to open a small business. That was nearly 20 years ago and while my store has prospered and remains profitable I do feel something is missing. It's that completist/perfectionist mindset that has served me well but also digs at me over my lack of diploma. The practical side of me says don't spend the money...the intellectual part of me wants to finish.
Here is the link tothe Wiki page for INTJ
Fits like a glove for me.
This page also has links to all the other types at the bottom
link
I can't tell you how many times people have described those traits in me. I've been called Felix (from the Odd Couple) and more recently Sheldon (from Big Bang Theory)
mt
nt
might help, can't hurt.
;-)!
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
At least enough at bed time to call it quits.
You are on the border of being x or y, you are on the border of...
can't hurt, might help!?
Warmest
Timothy Bailey
The Skyptical Mensurer and Audio Scrounger
And gladly would he learn and gladly teach - Chaucer. ;-)!
'Still not saluting.'
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