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The thinnest wire I can find a rating for is 40AWG. Although different charts show different ratings, depending on what they are used for the max rating for 40AWG looks like .0137 amps for current transmission. That is around 1/100 of an amp. Now I suspect that 54AWG is on the order of 1/2 of that based on circular mills. Not that I really need to know because I just suspect that 40AWG would be extremely inappropriate to use as speaker wire connected to amplfiers with like 1/2 amp to maybe as much as 10amp fuses. Geoff's use of 54AWG wire for speakers , speakers that don't carry much current according to him, would be on the order of 10 times less appropriate to use than 40AWG. Is there a different ward for the craziest of the craziest? Tweaker
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900 watts continuous?????? You have your own stadium where you live? I'd like to see the math on that Geoff. Ever heard of math??
What does this response have to do with 54AWG SPEAKER CABLES Geoff? Do you think Sprey and his partner are so dumb that they wouldn't be looking at the current carrying capacity of any wire they were using for any application? I certainly doubt it. No such thing as Mapleshade or Clearview 54AWG SPEAKER WIRE.
Yes THEY were 56 AWG not 54. THEY meaning the INTERCONNECTS not the SPEAKER cable. Got that? INTERCONNECTS, NOT SPEAKER CABLE. INTERCONNECTS,NOT SPEAKER CABLE. INTERCONNECTS, NOT SPEAKER CABLE. Interconnects carry EXTREMLY little current. Speakers can demand a number of amps. AMPS. That's AMPERES. No Milli in front of it. Even so , what's one gauge difference among friends.
The average current required for most speakers is actually milliamps. As I already said at least twice. No one said the peaks couldn't be more than one amp. If you're trying to convince us you're dense you're doing an excellent job.
Or a Walkman with K-Mart ear buds. Or how about a 1/4 amp fuse?
Crazy is right.
The Audio Beat
Sue, By the lack of any response from Geoff it looks like he did go back on his meds. Tweaker
Sue, If my ballpark estimate of 54AWG being rated for about .001 amps, 1/1000th of an amp I doubt it would be able to come close to running a 12 watt light bulb. Maybe Geoff can respond with something other than a logical fallacy at some point. Like maybe he can do the research on the current rating of 54 gauge wire and then show how this is compatible with what a speaker would require? Tweaker
I spoke with a techie friend of mine and he is the one who suggested maybe a 12 watt light bulb. The other things he said about Geoff Kait I won't repeat.
In my experience, people who resort to name calling (like Geoff) usually do so as a diversionary tactic when they know not of what they speak.
Prove me wrong Geoff.
The Audio Beat
The magnitude of this moronacy is mind boggling. If Mapleshade used 54AWG, and I don't doubt it since they seem to be the main thin wire mavens out there they would be using it for interconnect, not speaker wire. That's where the math works out. T
Mapleshade does sell speaker wire, but I'm not sure about the gauge wire they use. If I have time, I'll see if I can find out. I used to get their catalogs in the mail but haven't seen one in quite some time.
If you google "Mapleshade speaker wire" you'll find a number of reviews.
The Audio Beat
Well Sue, Your techie friend is a bit off also. I did the simple math. With a max current rating of .0137 amps using an 8 ohm load the wattage is about .0015 watts. Yes I got it right. 1.5 to the -03 power. This is how incredibly stupid using 40awg for speaker wire is. 54awg should carry about half the current of 40awg. Twice as stupid. Enough power to blow an amoeba's ear drums out. Tweaker
Awe come on Sue. Go ahead, repeat it.
So far you haven't said anythung that contradicts my original claim that stereo speakers don't require more than a few hundreds of milliamps on average. Hel-loo!
If you take off the Hel-L you end up with a number which represents the amount of credibility that Geoff has. Back on your meds dude.
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RE: Instantaneous current demand and wire gauge?
Posted by geoffkait (M) on March 10, 2016 at 08:10:13
In Reply to: RE: Instantaneous current demand and wire gauge? posted by 6bq5 on March 9, 2016 at 12:07:25:
I tend to doubt all of those equations are applicable since I have heard 54 ga. Speaker Cable as I mentioned in my other post and it sounds EXTREMELY GOOD. Plus I seem to recall measuring more like 2 amps at the speaker terminals when music was playing. Could my memory be on the fade?
English majors shouldn't get into technical arguments. One assumes Audio Beat doesn't actually pay for your reviews. ;-)
How's about psychology majors smarty pants? Psychology majors armed with 2nd grade math. Something called Ohm's Law.
It would appear you've psyched yourself out.
I might have made the mistake of thinking that this was a photo of you, Geoff, but goats have brains. Anymore quirky little insults instead of proof, like math and physics?
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