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In Reply to: am i off in my assessment? posted by njjohn on December 16, 2003 at 04:35:55:
I wouldn't necessarily would say that you are off (I could be for that matter). I was just trying to account for the differences. I think I understand what you mean by "bruteness" - not that the Abby's are crude, but when a solo is played, say by a sax, it has a great presence, a sense of being in the room with you. My wife was commenting last night, in the next room, how it seemed like the players were right in the room. I agree with you in the main re. how the Abby seems to favor certain instruments - I find that guitars, violins, cellos, and saxes do especially well. Seems to do less well on piano. It's on the voice that we seem to experience different things; I do find that the Lowther's have more detail, but the timbre and the soulfulness of the voice seems to come across better to me with the Abby's.
About placement, do you have them toed in or not. I find they do better firing straight ahead. Anyways, glad you are enjoying them. I envy your having both the Lowther's and the Abby's, plus all those cool SET's you have.
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glad to hear you have abbys and you are enjoying them as much as i am. they are becoming my favorite. i won't claim they are the last word in accuracy, but i also realize other speakers that i thought were very good are even less accurate.we are hearing the same things but coming from slightly different perspecitves, like a pair of eyes converging on the same thing.
the reason i said that they don't voice especially well was a comment about the fostex driver when compared to the lowther. i was comparing with astrud gilberto's voice and only the lowther allowed me to hone into some very particular characteristics of her voice including extra accent, and the way she says her words.
but when comparing the impact of the solo instruments such as the sax, the lowthers do it very well-almost excellent, but the abbys seem to do it better. there is a little more weight and to the sound of the lead or solo instrument so that the solo can hit the spot.
i think people turn up the music to get to where the solo instrument hits the spot where it should, and often even with this, this is not satisfactory. problem is it seems with conventional speakers everything is too even, it is not capable of giving the lead the weight.
so i agree that voices can have a little more impact. the word you use is 'soulfulness'. 'impact' is the word i was looking for before.
instead of the word 'reverberation', i think the word 'resonance' is better. the abbys and fostex give each note some good resonance and this is why there is more body to the sound.
this helps nearly all the insruments, but maybe there is a bit too much resonance for the piano. i'm not that knowledgeable about instruments but to me the piano begins to sound a little more like an electric piano. there is perhaps an extra fraction of resonance. but heck perhaps that's the the way it should sound. the music sounds better so maybe that resonance is the right thing and we are use to sound stripped too much from resonance.
and heck, i'd like to hear some music on it that
is actually purposely recorded in resonate places. and i'm looking forward to hearing clapton's guitar on the abbys. when he was with cream. it probably will hit the spot like it should.i'm not too knowledgeable about single drivers and the boxes, pipes or horns that may contain them and i don't know how the abbys compare in this way. i would imagine the boxes i have the lowthers are just not as favorable as the fostex's in the abbys, so i don't know if the lowthers can attain the full weight. they are kings though of resolution.
you could put together the lowthers i have for about 500. a pair of dx3's put in a box. just have to locate it right because you cannot expect them like that to fill a room with sound.
i've been very fortunate about the amp situation since i have a friend who builds them, and we have been on this single ended journey together. i just ordered a pair of 45 monos to be built switchable to 2a3, with the transformers that i like. these will probably be my amps for the abbys.
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