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In Reply to: Re: Save BIG $$$ on Beauhorn Virtuoso Ref... sort of. posted by Steven R. Rochlin on November 10, 2000 at 10:47:56:
Oh, woe! Sackcloth and ashes time. I didn't read the rules, I didn't register; my posting hit the trashcan. (I'm not quite sure that I've got it right now, but I tried, Oh, God, how I tried). Let's try again?Steven,
I don't want to make a meal of this, but, yes, the passage I quoted from Thorsten did relate to the use of the Virtuosos and a Visaton sub and also a Visaton horn supertweeter. (Incidentally, I suspect that you're confusing Beauhorn with Carfrae when you talk about sideways firing, must-have subs - the Beauhorns are illustrated here). But this isn't the point. With a longer horn you can get more bass extension. Of course you can. You have to be careful to avoid coloration, is all. But it's not all about bass extension, is it?
Read Thorsten (again):
"However, anyone who has ever heard Lowther based Speakers cannot but admit that almost all Lowther based speakers have some serious Problems soundwise. At the same time Lowthers have a certain something that is hard to describe or explain, but which is extremely attractive.
Lowthers seem to bring you closer to the music. MUCH closer. The price to pay is an often tinny balance with often significant peaks in the upper Midrange that can be VERY irritating." [TNT Audio - loudspeakers tests]I had an email the other day:
"I ... have heard endless praise of your speakers. But I have never heard a Lowther driver that I could stand. As one reviewer said, "I do not know how they got the Lowther driver to sound so good, but they did." I am willing to go with the fact that you did. I have many European friends that dismiss the Lowthers, especially the DX4..."
I suggest that this is not an uncommon view. On the other hand:
"There are no nasty cabinet colourations and none of the peaky response irregularities which so many conventional designs exhibit to one degree or another.
"The Beauhorns' midrange is crystal clear, and sounds remarkably balanced and natural. The upper reaches, including the treble range, are beautifully sweet and clear, too." Chris Beeching, Listener Magazine, July/August 2000][For a copy of the full review, follow the link below].
This is the really significant difference between the Beauhorns and DIY cabinets, not the bass extension. Much development effort went into achieving this natural, sweet sounding treble. The mythology of horn speakers is extensive, and much of it is derogatory and misguided and I'm afraid that extolling the DIY designs and raising peoples' expectations too high will just lead to disatisfaction and reinforcement of the widely-held negative opinions.
By all means get out into the workshop and build those cabinets. Do it for fun, do it to save money, or whatever, but don't think that you're building Beauhorns (or Carfaes).
Whether you're listening, or building, have fun,
Eric@Beauhorn
Follow Ups:
Eric,Lovly photo. Do you make any enclosures with rounded edges and more curves? Just wondering. You are right in that for a brief moment my mind went to the Carfraes, but then it returned to the underlined b loudspeakers (yours). Seems i have seen SO MANY Lowther-type loudspeakers that it makes the mind boggle. My brain needs a 1,000,000,000 mile tune-up... but the show is closed %-{) :-{) .
i fully agree that every product is unique in that simple reverse engineering may not be the whole Key (unless it is CD/DVD/etc bit for bit copies, and even then it is also how clean the bits are on the digital disc). The DIY guys on the AA DIY board are busy doing their own 47 Labs Gaincard reverse engineering. With so few parts and easy construction it should not be that hard for them BUT they can not build the cool small metal box that MIGHT also play a role in the overall sound of a real 47 Labs gaincard.
In the end if someone wants Beauhorns, Carfraes or whatever, they best buy them from their local dealer. If they want to have fun, heartache, blood, sweat and tears of DIY, more power to 'em. As i have already apologized for my original posting as it did not say in type what my brain was trying to say. Never the less, life should be filled with many joys and A LOT of fun. All those fun years of building Heathkits and eventually working for Heathkit myself brings back the good ol' days.
It's the weekend and i'm going to take a break. Got steaks on the b-b-que. Nothing like the INCREDIBLE Veal in Milan, but there is always next years Top Audio show. Hope to see you there (or the UK show or the upcoming CES in Vegas).Enjoy the music,
Steven "will work to pay for my audio addiction" Rochlin
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