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In Reply to: RE: LM Audio's LM55 Speakers posted by Crazy Dave on March 27, 2012 at 13:57:44
There aren't allot of Don Better's in the world. But, good retailers like Don, can conduct their business via internet and out of their showrooms.
The fact is, Don sells expensive stuff with tight distribution controls. EMT, Shindo, LM Audio are all controlled by Tone Imports. Which ads costs to the retail price. The manufacturers obviously see the benefit of this system versus a pure internet direct model. They are probably right. It takes knowledgeable people with certain sensibilities to the high end customer to sell and promote this kind of gear. The kind of customer that doesn't hang out here.
I'm hoping there will be a trickle down benefit to the small manufacturer who can get some traction from the interest generated by the LM Audio and EMT's of the world. I love gear of this ilk with "old world" quality and sound. My problem is that I like to experiment and change things out and buying full price retail is just not going to work for me. For the price of a mid priced Shindo preamp, I can go under the radar and put together a really good sounding system.
$10,000 seams like a reasonable price for this product but I also suspect the worst. I'm smelling "introductory" pricing to get the brand some momentum... and then price increases will come. To say it's worth $25 or $35,000 is absurd and makes me wonder about the motivation behind the post.
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it might cost that. I own a pair of $15,000 speakers that skips the importer and the retailer. I don't know what they would cost with those two steps added, but I guess twice as much would be a minimum. I have loved Shindo preamps, and own the Giscours, but I am also partial to Lowther speakers. I just thought the LM 55s were a great buy for around $9,000.
It is also a very specialized product with this 300B power supplies for the field coils that allow those who like such things the possibilities of tube rolling.
All I was trying to do was share an exciting new product with those who might be interested.
Beatnik's stuff http://web.me.com/jnr1/Site/Beatniks_Pictures.html
'I own a pair of $15,000 speakers that skips the importer and the retailer. I don't know what they would cost with those two steps added, but I guess twice as much would be a minimum.'
You probably won't go for this pair of speakers if the price was at full retail price after the importer/retailer add their profit margin. If there is no middleman, the manufacturer can sell more speakers at $15000 and at least stay in the business longer.
Thank-you Jack and I apologize that a few of us managed to steer the topic in a completely different direction
In the long run, the manufacturers will find a way to do away with the middleman and sell the products directly to the public. This is the only way to ensure its long term survival. This is the direction that all manufacturers will follow in the near future.
Luckily the local audiophile market is huge. I mean Mainland China. I would like to see LM Audio to stay. From what they are offering now, it looks like the top brass from LMA knows the Hi-End Ultra-Fi market very well. Making replicas are easy. The sound tuning part is not easy to do. I never audit any LM Audio gear yet but from most I heard in the net. Look like they got it right.
Well said Lokie! Oddly enough I have a Shindo amp.linestage and I.C.'s all of which I purchased used from private owners.At one point,I suspected that I had an issue with my Montille (which turned out not to be the case).Jonathan Halpern from Tone Imports responded to my questions quickly and thoroughly even though I didn't purchase these pieces from one of his dealers.That type of professionalism is tough to put a price on. Also,I must mention that I've only been to Don Betters place once and I haven't purchased a single thing from him yet ( I was hesitant about the appointment only arrangement and I suspected I was a bit out of my league).As it turns out,I wish I'd made the appointement several years earlier Aw heck,now I'm rambling
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