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In Reply to: RE: Getting the Upgrade Bug, (or, I sure hope streaming services like Qobuz will be around for awhile) posted by email@example.com on January 06, 2020 at 10:24:10
The DMS-600 looks spectacular, but it's also very expensive at $7000. Furthermore, it has AK4497EQ DAC chipsets instead of the flagship AK4499EQ DACs.
If you want to spend a lot less money and get the Flagship AKM DACs, check out the new FiiO M15 DSD512 Player. It also supports Internet streaming and it has the latest MQA 8x decoding. The price is only $1460.
FiiO M15 Flagship DSD512 Player/Streamer
And there's nothing wrong with that. But have you actually heard the Cary DMS-600 which jdaniel is interested in? I'd think that the chipset is only one factor (albeit probably a large one) in the overall design and sound of a particular component.
No, I've not heard the DMS-600, but I've heard other equally high priced DACs. I own a $3000 Mytek Brooklyn Bridge and I also own a $650 FiiO M11 Pro , which has dual AK4497EQ DAC chips just like the DMS-600.
I haven't played my Brooklyn Bridge in over three months now because I think my FiiO M11 Pro sounds better. Hopefully, the new FiiO M15 will sound at least as good if not better than my M11 Pro . But, who knows?
I plan to find out how the FiiO M15 sounds pretty soon, though, because I plan to buy one. ;-)
... it is not top of your list. I have no experience of it but it has received a lot of good press.
I think the Brooklyn Bridge is excellent. It sounds fantastic. However, when FiiO came out with their M11 Pro, I thought it sounded just as good if not slightly better. Moreover, it could play both PCM and DSD directly from a plug-in micro SD card.
I was somewhat disappointed in the Brooklyn Bridge because although it can play digital files directly from a plug-in USB flash-drive, it plays only PMC. For some odd reason, the Brooklyn Bridge won't play DSD from its plug-in flash-drive. It requires a computer to stream digital through a USB cable using JRiver of equivalent software.
The FiiO M11 Pro sounds just as good to me as the Brooklyn Bridge and it doesn't require a computer connection to play DSD files all the way up through DSD256. Moreover, FiiO just came out with a new model, the M15, which will play DSD512 from a plug-in micro SD card. As soon as it becomes available through Amazon or B&H Photo, I'm buying it.
BTW, I wasn't trying to dampen your enthusiasm!
jdaniel will attest to the fact that I try to dampen his enthusiasms all the time over on the Classical forum! ;-)
But this time around, I'd definitely be interested in what he thinks if he ends up the with the Cary component. (My own choices are much more limited, since I insist on MCh.)
Re: "hearing" the Cary, I haven't found a dealer in CA yet. Cambridge Audio offers a very decently-priced unit but not DSD!
TBH, any mid-fi "all in one" DAC and network streamer would be fine by me.
All I require , irrational or not, is that it has RCA jacks. It would be very odd, (for me, anyway) to use the headphone out of the unit John recommends to connect to my amp!)
That said, seems like a very cool device.
You are many things, jdaniel, but a 'Mid Fi Guy'?
No you are not!
I use Tune-in all the time, sounds quite good on Z1.
Never used Spotify.
Good cables and PC make Big difference.
Clarus Crimson and Aqua.
I use all the Upsampling Options, and Normal Conversion.
> It would be very odd, (for me, anyway) to use the headphone out of the unit John recommends to connect to my amp!)
I guess I don't understand what difference it makes. Anyway, it doesn't make any difference to me. I bought interconnects with RCA plugs and with XLR connectors. I plug my FiiO directly into the balanced inputs of my power amp and it sounds fantastic.
A headphone out implies there would be an output stage and attenuator in the path before the preamp. It might sound just fine, but extra stuff in the path is not very audiophile-like!
marc g. - audiophile by day, music lover by night
> A headphone out implies there would be an output stage and attenuator in the path before the preamp.
Yes, you're right! The balanced outputs go through the volume control. Of course, if you're plugging into the balanced inputs of a power amplifier, you need a volume control, don't you? I do!
On the other hand, both the FiiO M11 and M11 Pro also have unbalanced line outputs. Consequently, when I plug into the Aux inputs of my preamp, I use the FiiO's unbalanced line outputs.
My Sony D 100 DSD Recorder does.
I've compared Dac (and CD player) Variable out into Amp vs Line Level into Pre, I've preferred fixed into Pre, by a lot.
More robust sound, and not a Little...
My Mac D 150 Dac has both, Mac MA 6900 Integrated has Direct to Amp options.
I prefer using the Preamp.
Thanks, beautiful kit, but...where are the RCA jacks? : )
> Thanks, beautiful kit, but...where are the RCA jacks? : )
I know. What a bummer! ;-)
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