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In Reply to: RE: Haitink(LSO) & Vanska(BIS) posted by pbarach on December 28, 2019 at 14:14:34
We agree for sure ala Haitink's set. As for Vanska/BIS, I listen to hi-rez stereo tracks and find the sonics quite good for that set. Vanska adopts a chamber music-sized approach to the syms which I think is his nod to HIPP. He does use vibrato in the strings but judiciously. It just sounds right to me. I know from discussions with Robert at BIS that they don't do any dynamic range compression which places quite a challenge on home systems. There have been plenty of complaints on this forum about the wide dynamic range from BIS recordings. If you have a quiet room and a system that can handle the fff BIS recordings can be quite thrilling.
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Can you explain what you mean by this phrase? I don't think Vanska used reduced forces.
I know that the Cleveland Orchestra under Szell operated like a chamber music group, in that players listened to each other. But their Beethoven is big-boned, including augmentation of instrumentation here and there.
Just checked the booklet photo that comes with Syms 2&7 release and it looks like no more than about 75 players. So, somewhat reduced forces.
The orchestra sounds smaller to me - certainly not of the size employed in their Mahler recordings. Section articulation (especially in the strings) suggests a smaller group as does the balance of strings with winds and brass. I like this approach but "big band" LvB works for me too. Barenboim's set with the Staatskapelle Berlin fits that bill nicely.
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