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In Reply to: RE: Giving up on SACD posted by bullethead on December 22, 2018 at 08:16:24
fortunatly Chris Smithers and Nick drake are on sacd, and even dsotm. tha's about it though
I am saving for an upsampling dac (based on Russian kit) which I think will solve my dogital issues
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" I am saving for an upsampling dac (based on Russian kit) which I think will solve my digital issues"
Why do you think that? Upsampling adds no additional information ( genuine hi-res does). It does allow for digital filters with more "gentle" characteristics to be used but those filters have to be at your disposal. What choices does this Russian kit give you?
I have 18 or so years of owning upsampling equipment from the company that effectively invented the whole idea. However aside from an initial few years* I have since never used it. I have found it has some subtle unsettling characteristics (even using the latest revised algorithms). I would rather play straightforward redbook albeit with the asymmetrical filter ( no pre-ringing) that I can access.
I am not saying that what you are saving for may not provide what you seek but that the paper specification promises nothing in the real audible world. You need to hear before you buy.
* one interesting point is that although I was more or less happy with it for those years all of my musician friends hated it from the get go.
But I only listen to DSD 128, and am about to get a DSD 256 Dac.
With my gear and ears ( and i am a musician too ), I love upsampling everything to DSD 128.
I use HQ, and the developer recommends doing what I and most HQ users do, Upsample everything to DSD.
I don't dislike Hi Res PCM, but I love the DSD Sound.
I use the Sony Hap Z1, McIntosh D 150 mainly, also have Mytek 192/DSD , Lampizator Euforia, and Korg Audiogate/and Dac for editing my live DSD Recordings.
A number of Companies offer Dacs or Disc Players that exclusively Upsample to High Rate Dsd.
I have to admit iIdon't why many others don't like upsampling, I do and have since the first time I heard it.
OK, here you are as a musician that likes upsampling. Fair enough and more power to your elbow ( or lungs and lips :-)).
What gear? In order: dCS Elgar/Purcell, dCS Paganini 4 box stack, dCS Vivadli 2 with matching upsampler ( which I tried but had the familiar misgivings so didn't buy the upsampler box). Maybe your gear does it better but, as I this is from the company that really "invented" upsampling and, BTW, was one of the developers during the implementation of DSD for SACD (they were responsible for the data packing) and was also a prime developer of DoP. So I take it on trust that they know what they are doing.
Now I like DSD. Just not PCM upsampled to DSD. I don't really like PCM upsampled to other sample rates even when they are integers of 44.1 KS/s. However I will admit that 16/44.1 upsampled to 24/176.4 is a reasonable compromise i.e. the negative aspects that I hear are not as prevalent as with DSD conversion.
It is difficult to put in words why I dislike it (dCS don't understand me either!) as I am currently unsure that I have the appropriate vocabulary. I can only say that when I switch it off it is comparable to having worn a pair of shoes that pinch and the relief upon taking them off. I really have been suffering mild stress.
I suppose one day I could try the DSP facilities in JRiver and try it there but , as I said recently, I try not to get too involved in excess playing around with technology. I do too much already and it eats into listening to music.
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