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In Reply to: RE: Marantz SA-10si Reviewed posted by flood2 on April 05, 2017 at 23:10:30
There have been several unsatisfactory editors of HFN & RR since John Crabbe.
Frank I- has a review forthcoming soon.
Time Frank I review appears we will all be much older. No need to look beyond hiredfox's final comments posted April 19 , he has experience of most of the previous Marantz top spinners that other commentators most probably do not and this is essential.
I still want to read about Frank I 's impression(s).
all posts so far except hiredfox find SA10 CD to be very good, IMO only well recorded Classical music should be the used for assessing SQ. Pop & Rock can sound impressive but its usually studio enhanced and has no meaningful reference standard.
Hope to read more reviews on this player.
fantja , you will be very unlikely to read a more revealing review than the one from hiredfox, Marantz SA-10 is only worth buying for those interested in stereo SACD and want to spend $6K or in UK £6K..
Looking forward to Frank I's review.
I look forward to Franks review too. I have a CD7 for many years and is thinking of replacing with a SA10. I am a analog fan most of the time but I hope SACD will come close in terms of sound quality when playing SACD.
SME20/12 V12 arm, Clearaudio Titanium V2, Nagra BPS, Marantz CD7, Marantz NA11S1, Airtight ATC2, Passlabs XA100.8 mono pwr, Sonus Faber Amati Futura, Kimber PK10 Palladian, Yter bi-wire spkr cables, Nordost Valkyrja & Audience AU24SE interconnects, N
Unless Frank has a CD7 his review will not help in comparing it with the SA-10 . hiredfox has said he prefers the CD7, whilst he says the SA-10 excels with stereo SACD. I have heard the CD7 and it is excellent, much better than the SA7-S1.
3 months in and delighted with the SA10-S1. By any measure this is an outstanding SACD player and has fully justified my gamble in buying without trying.
Using DSD recorded SACD as data source, the sound from this player is almost indescribably realistic. I can find no flaw in its presentation. Suddenly, all the hi fi characteristics that we have used to pinpoint the gains and shortfalls of all previous players are consigned to the bin. This player in this mode plays music as it should be heard.
The sense of presence is uncanny. Stereo only or not and we will argue that one until the cows come home, this system lights up the back wall of your listening room and the room itself in a way most of us have never experienced before. There is no sense that the sound you hear is coming from the boxes in front of you. In essence it creates its own hall ambience that renders mch almost unnecessary, it is truly difficult to imagine what else could be added by the 5-channel experience in a small room listening in the near field.
Musicians are arrayed in front of you, each player or section exactly in its place and firmly glued to the floor. You can literally listen to any section you choose or prefer and follow their tunes and this effect can be startling even if you think you know a piece of music well. Often you just do not appreciate all of the details that go to make the whole even in concert but boy does this player educate! Nothing is missing. This is musical heaven on Earth.
It is less accommodating on PCM recorded SACD even 'though the player reads a DSD signal from the disc. Sadly the damage has been done in the PCM mode with frequency cut offs at 48kHz and up depending on mode chosen by the recording engineers. The transcription into SACD for the Super Audio disc format cannot turn lead into gold. Images are far less precise and stable and the soundstage is always limited in width to between the speakers (at least on my system) although some DXD recordings approach the DSD standard but the latest DSD throughout recordings are simply sublime to hear.
This is the best SACD player yet in my experience and not by a small margin. It is head and shoulders above the SA7-S1 and all its high end offspring like the SA11-S3 and SA14 SE. Marantz have produced a real gem, a musical marvel that will satisfy even the most demanding of listeners.
This is no background music player by he way. You must really love sitting down, clearing your mind and listening to music for an hour or two without distraction. If you have that level of dedication then the £6K investment is well worth the candle. In fact that is only the same level of dedication needed to get off one's backside and go listen to a live performance!
Thanks for a wonderful review. When my Marantz SA10 arrive, I will make a comparison on CD playback with my CD7 and also with the DAC of my NA11S1. A comparison with my SME 20/12 will be interesting too pitting the best of analog with SACD.
(SME20/12 V12 arm, Clearaudio Titanium V2, Nagra BPS, Marantz CD7, Marantz NA11S1, Airtight ATC2, Passlabs XA100.8 mono pwr, Sonus Faber Amati Futura, Purepower 3000+, Yter, Kimber PK10 Palladian, Nordost Tyr)
Very interesting ,however IMO best SACD arrives in mch. virtually all SACDs have mch layer, why do they bother with it,if it is not better than stereo ?. How many are going to pay $6K/for a stereo only SACD player that fails to reach the CD performance of the Marantz CD7 according to your previous post.
Thanks! for sharing- hiredfox
keep us posted as you continue to become acclimated w/ this spinner.
Hopefully, Frank I will release his review as well.
Does he listen on headphones or speakers ?
Classical & Jazz.
Frank- is your review posted?
we need more reviews of this spinner!
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