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Anyone find the SA-10 at a dealer/retailer?
After some delay, I finally collected my SA10 this afternoon. Initial impression is that it is excellent in both CD and SACD playback. It is extremely smooth, and in fact sounded very analog in both CDs and SACDs. There is no grain at all from what I have heard. In my setup, it does surpass my CD7 in CD playback, contrary to what some others have heard - this I am very sure. I will let it runin 1st in the next few days. So far it is less than 10 hrs and I am very impressed already. Time to retire my CD7 :)
(SME20/12 V12 arm, Clearaudio Titanium V2, Nagra BPS, Marantz CD7, Marantz NA11S1, Airtight ATC2, Passlabs XA100.8 mono pwr, Sonus Faber Amati Futura, Purepower 3000+, Yter, Kimber PK10 Palladian, Nordost Tyr)
Thanks! for sharing- Annapurna
where did you purchase your SA-10?
where are ya -RIQUE?
Yes, as reported here on another thread. I have one it is installed and is up and running. So far it has about 8 hrs listening on the clock. It is way too early to make wild statements about it's SQ.
What I will say is that it is an incredibly well engineered machine and is extremely well packed and presented. The box contains a personal letter from Ken Ishiwata, a pair of white silk gloves and an invitation to join an exclusive '10' club. The machine appears to use a similar chassis to the SA11-S3 rather than the SA7-S1 but is about the same weight as the SA7-S1 - bloody heavy!
In operation the drawer mechanism is slow in operation but very quiet and it does not "slam" shut like the SA7-S1's which was also an in-house purpose built design. Marantz for some reason have reverted to the balanced output configuration of Pin 1 And, Pin 2 Hot (+), Pin 3 Cold (-). The SA7-S1 had the Pin 2 / Pin 3 configuration the other way around which has caused a problem for me as the interconnects for the link to the pre-amp were specially modified for me by Cardas so now I have to send those cables over to the US again to have them reversed once more. Meanwhile I have been forced to start my listening with absolute phase reversed which is not good.
The things that strike you immediately are;
- Huge soundstage width and depth
-Very high resolving power at even low levels of listening. Inner detail unravelling is excellent even in dense passages
- Extremely low noise floor - it is silent in playback from disc
- Very accurate instrumental timbres, excelling at piano, string and timpani but great on all including organ which had our house shaking!
- Transient attack is guillotine like
Insofar as it is far too early to describe the character of the music produced, I am a little puzzled by a physiological instinct that it seems to play music 'slowly' which I haven't got my head around just yet.
Give it time, and keep us posted!
I have the SA11s3 which has pin 2 neg. and pin 3 pos. If you go into the menu you can change the polarity. I also have the PM11s3 which has the same configuration so polarity is not an issue for me. Check your manual to see if you can reverse the polarity of the SA10.
The SA7-S1 had a phase reversal button on the facia but sounded better with the correctly wired cables, don't ask me why? There is no similar facility on the SA-10S1. Neither does it have provision for connection of a Master Reference Word Clock which transformed the performance of the basic machine.
The SA-10S1 manual comes in CD-ROM form but of course the MacBook Pro has dispensed with most useful facilities like a disc player and there is as yet no operating manual on-line on the Marantz 10 website to download!
So yes, I will explore the on-board menu when I can access it with confidence and a little knowledge.
Third item from the top.
Here is a link:
According to the download, you can indeed invert the phase from a menu setting.
The manual you are looking at is from Marantz USA. The OP is from the UK. If you go to Marantz UK there is no provision to download a manual. Is it possible that the USA version and the UK version are slightly different?
I am still looking for a dealer to demo.
Fantja There is a review by Jason Kennedy of both the expensive Class D Marantz PM-10 amplifier & a brief one of the SA-10 spinner in The Ear, but IMO the Hired Fox final one is still the most authentic and most likely to remain so.
Frank I - will deliver his review in October.
Thank You- Disbeliever.
Has anyone else taken a demo on this spinner?
unsure what is going on here?
Has anyone found RIQUE?
Anyone get an audition on this spinner?
Anyone else seen or heard this player?
and he didn't like it at all vs. his Sony.
Disbeliever recently said that he preferred his Sony to some expensive dCS equipment but has not said that he has heard the Marantz SA-10. The comment was part of an exchange he and I enjoyed about the filters in the Marantz machine ( based solely upon reports, not experience). Maybe that's where your impression came from?
to his recent post.
It's better than anything...
Except being in Love, at least as I understand it.
Thanks to Bob Dorough.
Disbeliever has years of posts criticizing Marantz's reference series SACD players. I was just anticipating the next post.
My 28 year old modified Marantz CD94 is still working ,however I sold it some 3/4 years ago. A friend is still using again modified the equivalent Philips 960 . The only Marantz I criticized was the SA7-S1,sold after a 700 hour burn in. I have not auditioned the latest SA-10.
Thank you all for the clarification. I remain somewhat interested in the SA10. I recently bought an SA14, Although there have been some negative comments about that unit on this forum, I am pretty happy with it. Although in general it is not as exciting as my vinyl setup, on some SACD's it sounds really excellent to my ears, and on CD's it is a considerable improvement over my previous Onkyo CD player. I can't help wondering if the SA10 would be a worthwhile further improvement. It would have to be a major one to justify the price.
I will have a listen to the SA-10 shortly but expect it will be difficult to get a home demo. As for modifications on Marantz CD94 & Philips 960 they were very extensive amounting to a complete rebuild of both digital & analogue sections, these players were suitable for upgrading,whilst quite good as standard, the mods transformed them into top notch RB players.
No chance of a home demo according to one of the main dealers in UK as Marantz are pretty much making them to order. It is not a Limited Edition per se but production is limited to those who actually want to buy one, "Deposit up-front please". This tells me absolutely that the SA-10S1 is very much a flagship Loss Leader. Understandable when you look at the quality of Design & Engineering not to mention the up-front years of R & D.
As a user of dCS equipment the contrasts could not be starker. My bet is a profitable SA1-10S1 would come in around the £20/25k mark if it was made by dCS. Luckily it isn't.
He hasn't been kind to my "obese" SA-7S1. :)
This is a public service announcement . . . WITH GUITARS!!!
"and he didn't like it at all vs. his Sony."
I can't find the original post from Disbeliever asserting this. Can you quote it?
I think Disbeliever is only interested in multichannel; is that the reason he prefers the Sony?
Did he even listen to the Marantz?
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