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Why does it so long for Marantz (or other company like Denon or Yamaha) to come up with a player with USB input that can accept DXD and DSD 11.2
Marantz, you are at least 3 years late.
too small a market. Please dont try to say there is a big market of folks that want those features much less a CD player......except people like us
"If at first you don't succeed, keep on sucking till you do suck seed" - Curly Howard 1936
...CD players these days especially ones that costs $7K USD!! Even within the audiophile community which is a relatively small niche, buyers of CD players must be a shrinking breed.
On a related note, I wonder with the resurgence of vinyl if turntable sales will (or have?) out numbered CD player sales lately. Hmm.
No need to Rip CDs, and I still have a lot, plus plays SACDs, all played at 4x DSD.
It eliminates the Ripping stage
Also, Data Discs will play, so no Computer hookup needed for HiRes, also played at 4X DSD.
Also a USB Dac and probably plays from NAS.
Seems very flexible, and the SAY it sounds great.
Less $ than PS Audio High-End stuff, Memory Player and the 10x DSD Dac.
I'm interested to read the reviews, but local Marantz shop would only special order it, not have on a shelf to audition.
I'm surprised there aren't any early reviews yet, I check from time to time.
Who is the SAY ?
SAY SAYS it sounds great!
And I feel bad about it that audiophiles are becoming niche.
I remember about 20 years ago, people were queing up outside the Sonic Frontier shop (by the way, I am in Hong Kong) when they were having a sale.
This goes back to the original 1 bit high frequency DACs from Philips which filtered rather than converting for analog output. The Meridian 208 (Philips "bitstream" DAC3) back in 1993 did this, and it still is the best CD player I've heard in my system. SACD/DSD was just a way of pushing that technology back to the disc, eliminating the initial oversampling conversion of the PCM source.
I found the original I bit bitstream inferior to the Philips 16 bit TD1541A S2 Double Crown Dac.
Maybe you don't like it either?
Jim The excellent Sony XA5400ES is a mch SACD player, whilst the Marantz SA-10 like the previous obese SA-7S1 is Stereo only.
Presumably your Sony does a very good job with CDs using this strategy.
So the 5400 converts PCM to DSD on CDs?
I've never heard that before.
I like my 5400 on SACD, but it's thin and bright on CDs, not as good as XA7 CD player.
But, that being said, I love my HAP Z1 in Full-Sony Mode:
DSEE Auto, Remastering Engine On, Precision Upsampling.
It sounds much better than Mytek 192/DSD or Lampi Euforia, in direct comparison.
Sony's new Portable stuff has newer technology, I hope there is a Z2 in the near future
that uses it.
Yes, definitely oldmkvi: have a look at Kal's review of your Sony: http://www.stereophile.com/content/music-round-36-page-2#Exdjij4SPkvsOMgD.97 .
These things are always somewhat taste and system dependent. Of the three players that aspire to reference quality that I've owned and had in my current system: the Marantz SA-14, Esoteric DV-50 and Oppo bdp-95, none have employed this conversion to DSD. But my brother's Meridian 208 outperformed all three for CD, to the best of my memory, except for the Oppo with HDCD - where the Oppo is outstanding. Of these three players I liked the Marantz the least: not only did it take up extra space in my rack but it was overly warm relative to my system and taste. But knowing Marantz I'd be surprised if the new player doesn't sound "warm and liquid" as well, regardless of the "new" DAC technology.
My brother now prefers the Bryston bda-3 DAC, driven by the Meridian. While Bryston massively oversamples the PCM to 384/32 they keep DSD and PCM conversion totally separate "to avoid conversion", so that playback is "bit perfect" to the original media. Personally I've developed a resistance to these marketing claims based on competing technologies.
It will be interesting to hear if the latest Marantz 1 bit dac is any better than the previous one, however as I have already posted I am not interested in Stereo only SACD players.
Right, so there's no reason to keep posting about 2 Ch equipment...
My 5400 does not sound thin & bright on Cds, it is excellent as in the first Hi-Fi Choice review by Alvin Gold
I understand that the player upsamples incoming data to DSD. Is there a NOS mode?
waiting for reviews, not that I'll be getting one...
Reviews are nice as well as giving a shout-out for your Marantz dealer/retailer.
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