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My bro dpwloads heaps of hirez files, and has always said they are too big to fir on a Cd.
However I just spotted this Cd of a favourite album of mine.can a hi rez, so iwas bit surprised
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It allows me to record on a CD-Rom at 24/96kHz and playback on the machine at that bit depth and frequency, but only on the 9600 machine.
It's been years since I've fiddled with it, but I want to say 12 minutes on a 600mb CD-Rom disc, maybe a minute, or two, longer.
For Kal, Michael Fremer records different cartridge/arm combos that he fiddles with, at 24/96, to later go back and revisit the combo's sonic signature. He feels that the higher rez allows him to do this with little fuss and only the cost of some blank discs. He then catalogues them.
Chris
Is this thread a joke? Seriously?
I find that I can fit 7 of 8 tracks of a 24/96 version of Holst Planets on a CD-R stored as files. What's missing?
Uranus. :)
A basic question is never a joke. Not everyone knows everything, even about things that may be obvious to you. You are a music industry professional, the OP is an art teacher/artist. Presumably he does not have your skills, you do not have his.
That was well put
If you don't need the CD-R to play in a CD player you can burn up to about 700MB of 24/96, 24/192 or any other resolution of audio on the disc as FLAC files, or AAC, or mp3, etc. It's just that it would be a data disc only, not RedBook. You would need to play the files on it on a computer using appropriate software (foobar, WMP, etc.). 700MB won't hold much of a hi-res FLAC file, though.
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Even if you did write a 24/96 music file onto a silver disc it would not be a CD. The standard is defined by ISO 60908 which defines not only the data rate (16 bit, 44.1 kHz) but also how the data is written per frame, error correction, information layers for storing ISRC, CD text and so on.
Any disc that does not adhere to this standard is not a Compact Disc.
The logo saying 24/96 remastering means just (or only) what it says. The engineers transferred the original analogue tape to a 24/96kHz digital master which was downsampled, in turn, to produce a 16/44.1kHz production master to cut the glass master for the CD.
Classic album from Sir Rod. I must look out my old vinyl copy which I haven't heard since the year of release.
You are right about the CD International Standard. Furthermore, the capacity of standard compact discs would significantly limit the playing time with music of 24/96 digital resolution.Alesis introduced a different standard called CD-24 that enabled higher resolution up to 24/96 to be written onto a standard CD-R. It would allow only 19.7-minutes of music on a standard 650-MB music CD-R and 21.3-minutes of music on a 700-MB data CD-R. It was playable only in the Alesis Masterlink ML-9600 hard disc digital recorder.
Edits: 09/08/16
Thanks John, interesting. Isn't this the machine that Michael Fremer uses to make dubs from his record player to play at various industry events?
Michael Fremer used a specially modified Alesis Masterlink at one time, although as Jeff Starr states, he has since moved on to different digital recorders.
I used the Alesis Masterlink to copy vinyl from 2003 until I upgraded to a TASCAM DA-3000 a couple of years ago. The Masterlink's highest resolution is only 24/96 whereas the TASCAM DA-3000 can record PCM up to 24/192 as well as DSD(64) and DSD(128). Nowadays I used DSD(128) to copy vinyl LPs.
Best regards,
John Elison
Thanks John. I must say that Tascam recorder may be very attractive to me. The 2016 Proms season is just about to end and I am frustrated at not being able to have a permanent copy of some of the concerts broadcast on BBC Radio 3 HD. But I assume that I would still be unable to record streamed radio and would need to use an FM feed via the Tascam's analogue inputs?
As for recording to it from vinyl, I have read your enthusiastic recommendations over the past months and it may have a future for me too.
I assume that as you use DSD you do not (cannot) use any DSP software for e.g. de-clicking? Do you transfer the files produced to another player , say PC/Mac based, for replay or do you just go straight from the Tascam to your pre-amp?
Of course if I did get one I would have to find somewhere to put it and that is not easy for me these days as my available space is used up.
Best Wishes
Pete
Actually, I have never used click and pop removal software on any of my vinyl recordings, even when I recorded in 24/96 PCM. Therefore, going to DSD(128) was not a problem in that regard.
I transfer all my vinyl recordings to my computer for storage onto external USB hard drives. For playback of PCM files and DSD(64) files, I use USB flash drives plugged directly into my Oppo BDP-105D. For DSD(128) playback, I use USB flash drives plugged directly into my TASCAM DA-3000. I no longer use a computer for streaming digital.
Best regards,
John Elison
It was at one time, Fremer had his upgraded.
Now I would think he would be using something else that he can include hi-rez and dsd.
I don't recall him mentioning the Alesis in the recent past.
If it is a CD, it is 16/44.1 and no where does it say otherwise. It does have a label that it was remastered at 24/96 but, I'd wager, that's not what is on the disc.
on their own site, I was able to find original resolutions. The Strauss Songs with Felicity Lott (the one to have) is upsampled to 24/96.
I look forward to acquiring many Warner Classical EMI reissues (Perlman/Previn Sibelius VC is a sleeper) and I'm really hoping that they went back to the master tapes!
If they offer a download at 24/96, that's because the master was recorded at 24/96. Some of their Vaughan Williams offerings are available at only 24/48 - again, because that's the resolution of those particular masters.
Spectrographic software will show whether a given 24/96 download actually has that resolution, or whether it's simply a lower-rez recording which has been placed in a higher-rez container. (In general, from what I've read on various posts, both here and elsewhere, this seems to be a problem in the pop/rock world more than in the classical world.)
I think the Chandos download offerings have been exemplary in this regard, i.e., their 24/96 downloads REALLY WERE/ARE recorded at 24/96.
(BTW, I share your enthusiasm for the Lott recordings of the Strauss orchestral songs.)
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