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In Reply to: RE: Channel Classics getting out of SACD mostly posted by PAR on April 23, 2016 at 18:14:29
for any of that? Not interested in internet rumors or speculation, but I would appreciate knowing if it's true. Thanks.
Peace,
Tom E
berate is 8 and benign is 9
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I appreciate your desire not to rely upon speculation. However I can assure you that what I said is the case.
Unfortunately I cannot provide you with anything online to verify this as there were no press releases etc. The story emerges from business to business relationships between manufacturers and suppliers. You will find the story, at least in part and with loads of resulting speculation, on other forums such as the Steve Hoffman (postings from last year).
My source for the story is impeccable - one of the high end manufacturers whose product line has now been affected and who have been forced to virtually withdraw from the SACD player market due to no availability of OEM SACD mechanisms. They continue to manufacture a very limited output of SACD transports for the time being which rely exclusively on their back stock of mechanisms. This is despite this particular manufacturer having been one of the format's developers.
NT
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Not surprising. SACD has DRM and the DRM depends on patented technology. I never purcased a single SACD because of the DRM issue. Glad I made this decision. I have a few dozen Channel Classics DSD downloads and they are wonderful recordings. I wish them the best and believe they are making the correct decision.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
I thought DRM was allowed if companies want to implement it, but it wasn't required - I think that's true of both SACD and DVD-Audio. Don't know about blu-ray audio.
at this time, it is an internet rumor, with you as the sole source.
Peace,
Tom E
berate is 8 and benign is 9
. . . he's definitely not a rumor monger.EDIT: BTW, with regard to the OP on this thread, Jared has been saying he was going to do this for years, so no one should be surprised that he's about to cut back on physical media releases in favor of he-rez downloads. And if you want proof, Jared said so to me and a number of other listeners when he visited my house a couple of years ago. So if you don't believe me, I've got witnesses! ;-)
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Until he cites a source or any type of assigned information other than internet chatter, it's a rumor. I don't care very much about his rep.Why are you defending this speculation?
berate is 8 and benign is 9
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Face it, the era of disc-based music is coming to a close. Maybe it will be sooner, maybe it will be later, but it's clearly inevitable. Sure, maybe disc-based systems can survive (as vinyl has) among a fraction of a fraction of listeners, but as for the market in general, I just don't see disc-based playback continuing to be a factor, barring some miraculous development I'm not aware of. I even wonder whether downloads will survive - the future is streaming, and in many ways, it's already here. Check out Beyonce's latest album, "Lemonade" - exclusively available now on Tidal (and on iTunes only later on). Whether or not Beyonce means anything to you or me, she, by herself, represents a big chunk of the total music market, and I can't see this development (i.e., the exclusive release of a significant new album ONLY on a streaming service, at least for a while) as anything other than a confirmation of the decline in the market for physical discs.
Chris:
Jared has certainly indicated he was moving the company towards downloaded content. No surprise there. If you reread my OP, you will see that what surprised me was that I ordered a Channel disc from amazon assuming it would be an SACD and receiving a dreaded CD. Really a shame too. I was so looking forward to finally having a version of the Lalo concerto on SACD, a real missed opportunity IMO. A Channel cello concerto disc was one of my very first SACD's, so it's a real shock for me to see that label give up on the format. Especially given Jared's appreciation of both DSD recording and Multichannel.
Dave
Dave - I see where you're coming from. I have some of those Channel Classics Wispelway recordings (with orchestra and with Lazic on the piano), and they're wonderful!
However, since you mentioned the Lalo Concerto in particular, I very highly recommend the following (on SACD!):
As you may know, I feel that I'm a connoisseur of many of the recordings of babe musicians, but I do have this recording myself, and I can assure you that Ms. Rochat gives an excellent performance which I suspect many listeners would love - even disregarding the booklet cover! ;-)
And as you can see, it's even DSD-sourced. And BTW, the Milhaud Concerto is not bad at all (one of the better Milhaud works that I've heard, actually), so the disc may also satisfy your sense of musical adventurism!
Sorry I was referring to the violin concerto, i.e., Symphonie Espagnole. I do have the Lalo Cello Concerto babe recording you mentioned.
It's available now.
Chris do you know if the multichannel layer of this SACD plays back in 3 channel with a dedicated center channel? Or is it only a stereo mix?
This is a 3 channel recording.
Chris, thank you for your support. I do try to be straightforward and hope that I generally succeed in this.
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