|
Audio Asylum Thread Printer Get a view of an entire thread on one page |
For Sale Ads |
99.139.78.167
Are the OPPO players any good as streaming network player?
Amazon has a few horrible reviews of them as network player.
How does the DAC compare in quality to Musical Fidelity, Cambridge Audio, and similiar?
thanks,
ken
Follow Ups:
kenzo,
if you want a network player, take a look at the OPPO HA-1. great sounding DAC and can be used as a pre amp as well.
I've had the OPPO 103d in my system for about 4 months, it is a great machine for the money.....Had I not owned a great DAC, the NAD M51 I would have probably justified the 105. Plus I have a kid in college so $600 fit my budget right now. As a stand alone player it sounds pretty good, but for me it was a no brainer as a universal transport. I don't really use it in a network per say but it has no problem pulling files from my tablet or laptop. I do use it with a 2TB hard drive that I've ripped all of my CDS to along with some HiRez files and it's great. With their media app I can view all of my play lists and choose any file from my tablet. In addition you have full control of all of the menu and setup via tablet or phone and it displays the cover art in addition to the track Metadata. I think it was a huge value for the money.
Very much appreciate the responses, thanks guys!
Ideally I would use the analog outs, in other words the OPPO dac, not an external dac. Seems a shame to pay for the DAC and not make use of it. Otherwise why not just get a pure streaming device?
I expect to use wired ethernet connection to NAS and USB to external drives.
I don't care so much about the video performance, I am sure I will be thrilled with it from an OPPO.
I would not expect to use the HDMI audio outs although I would expect to use the stereo digital outs for experimentation with external dacs.
I do have DFS files and expect to have even more as I digitize my LP collection.
I understand the need for subjective descriptions of audio characteristics. We simply do not have natural language to describe audio listening experience in rigorous mathematical terms.
I don't use a smart-phone but I may have to cave on that hold-out. It is understandable that there would be no 6 inch square color screen on the video player itself.
best,
ken
That it decodes Dolby Digital from your cable box, so you can play the music channels using the better Dac.
The only thing I wish it had is bluetooth.I solved that by using a Audio engine B1, which I find much easier to stream Tidal than using the Oppo media app. I am using a Android tablet, and I find the app problematic.
AB
thanks AB,
I guess I will stick with my Musical Fidelity M1 CLIC. I love the sound, but the navigation interface and USB support could be improved, and it doesn't do DSD so that;s why I was thinking about an alternative.
But I don't use a smart phone - I have a few Andriods of various vintages kicking around, but I found them all to be more trouble than they are worth to me.
ken
The one thing about OPPO that I really dislike is the need for a display monitor to change the system settings, now I realize that OPPO is primarily for video playback but for those of us who use this player strictly for music reproduction this is a big drawback.
I keep our TV and music systems totally separate, I wish OPPO had given the end user the option to change settings from its remote.
Vahe
If you connect your OPPO to your network, you can use a tablet as a monitor and also to control the OPPO. There are apps available. You can also use a smart phone, but the screen is kind of small so a tablet is easier to see.
is to get a small computer monitor and use it as a video only display. If I was in your situation I would look for an inexpensive monitor and run the wire so it sits next to me in the listening chair. It's a clunky solution but with some patience and creative cable running, it could be an effective solution.
Yes, that is exactly what I have done, hate the looks of it but that seems the only practical solution for now.
Vahe
You can change the settings on an Oppo player using one of their smartphone apps; you don't need a monitor in your system.
I replaced my Cambridge Audio Stream6 V1 with a 105D. In addition to supporting 24/192 and DSD64, I prefer the sound of the ESS Dac in the 105 to the Wolfson in the Stream6. Much of that is likely due to the output section in the 105. I don't use the balanced outputs currently.
I use the wired Ethernet connection, connecting to a Synology NAS as my DLNA server and mConnectHD on iPad and iPhone for DLNA control.
Why the preference? Ah, subjective listening terminology warning... I find the Stream6 to be darker tonally, perhaps a bit richer, but less dynamic. The 105 pops, seems to image better, and sounds more balanced to my ear.
YMMV
Are you intending to use it as a standalone player into a conventional analogue preamp?
If so then the 105 is a better choice since the internal DAC and analogue outputs are a significant improvement over the 103. I wouldn't consider using the 103 in the same way.
However, if you are using an external DAC, the 103 is a better choice in terms of the cost savings whilst retaining the same functionality as the 105.
I have found the firmware to be very stable and have not had any issues at all with crashing.
I can recommend Asset UPnP - if you go for the paid version (nominal cost) you can get Internet Radio streaming. I no longer use my reference transport and the 103 is now my digital media hub.
I use a 103 as a transport and network streamer and feed the digital output into a NAD M51 using the HDMI output and the results are superb - the NAD M51 HDMI input doesn't suffer from the high levels of jitter you would normally get with AV receivers. I have compared the direct HDMI connection to the Oppo SPDIF output feeding a Grimm CC1 Reference Clock into the NAD M51 via AES. Whilst there is no doubt the reclocked data via AES was superior, the difference was very marginal.
There is an app for Android and iOS so you can use a mobile device as a remote control/media selection tool without needing to use a TV screen - I find this very handy.
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
I don't know anything about the bad reviews on Amazon, but I have a 103 that does a fine job of streaming everything up to DSD64, streaming files wirelessly from my PC in the next room. I use the HDMI output to my receiver, so I won't comment on the analog outputs from the 103. There is an easy to use smartphone app that allows you to control any of the Oppo 10x models without needing a TV monitor to navigate through the audio files.
It does NOT stream internet radio. It DOES stream Tidal (haven't tried it; it must be accessed through the phone app, by the way) and the Berlin Philharmonic Digital Concert Hall (both of these are fee services). It will stream YouTube and either the paid or free version of Pandora.
Some people run into firewall issues; Oppo tech support is fast and helpful via email.
The 105D has a better set of analog outputs, by most reports (haven't heard it). The "D" models have identical audio quality to the non-D models; the "D" is a video processing circuit.
> Are the OPPO players any good as streaming network player?
It probably depends on what you want to stream. I have an OPPO BDP-105D and it is basically the heart of my audio/video entertainment system . I stream Netflix, Pandora, and YouTube with my OPPO, but it also contains applications for Vudu, Cinema Now, Berliner Philharmoniker, Rhapsody, and Tidal.
It also contains three USB type "A" ports that can be used to connect USB hard drives and flash drives containing hi-res music files and video files. It will play PCM up to 24/192 and DSD(64). It has a USB Type "B" DAC input that can play PCM up to 24/192, DSD(64) and DSD(128). I have about four terabytes of hi-res music that I play using hard drives and flash drives connected directly to its USB type "A" ports.
Then, of course, it will play DVDs, BluRay Discs, CDs, SACDs, etc. The OPPO BDP-105D will play virtually all formats of digital. It has an exceptional ESS Sabre 32 Reference Audiophile DAC and balanced analog outputs. I think it sounds very good. In my opinion, it is "voiced" to improve the sound of digital by removing harshness and providing a "tube-like" pleasing sound quality. You can get a lot more information about the OPPO BDP-105D from the link below.
Which model are you referring to? I gave a quick look at the 103 and 105 reviews on Amazon and the bad ones were few and far between. Also, will you be connecting wirelessly or via Ethernet because it may make a difference on high resolution files.
Joe
here's one for the 103 that makes it sound unuseable:
"Problems with streaming even after doing everything advised by OPPO. Also problems playing back audio files via the usb ports. Audio and video stalls/ freezes and stutters at times during streaming. The same thing happens during playback of audio files via usb ports. At times I have to turn the player off (even had to unplug power cord at times) to quit/ stop having problems."
It could be the user's network having a problem. Or poor USB cables or drives, who knows?
but I want to use it for exactly what the user is complaining about...
I don't have those kinds of problems with my OPPO BDP-105D. I stream hi-rez digital from USB flash drives and I stream Netflix, Pandora and YouTube from the internet. I bought BDP-103D players for my two grown children two Christmases ago and they have never mentioned any problems. Furthermore, OPPO has a 30-day money back return policy. I bought all my machines directly from OPPO.
Good luck,
John Elison
thanks John, certainly the overwhelming number of reviews have been raves for that machine both on Amazon and everywhere else.
I am currently using a Musical Fidelity M1 CLIC and I have absolutely no critique of the sound quality at all, it has the great combination of musical qualities. However it can't read NTFS drives from the USB (and 95% of my music is on NTFS) and the navigation interface is slow.
I guess I will stay with the M1 CLIC for a while longer.
Post a Followup:
FAQ |
Post a Message! |
Forgot Password? |
|
||||||||||||||
|
This post is made possible by the generous support of people like you and our sponsors: