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In Reply to: RE: Getting a new sacd player next week posted by jeromelang on February 19, 2012 at 05:07:35
Neither both are very much overpriced and IMO a rip-off. OTH if you have auditioned both and want to waste your dough the choice is yours.
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Get the one of which the sound is more to your liking... duh
If you can't audition then you could be wasting a huge amount of money based on the opinion of people you don't even know!
"On 16th note runs of the violin, it was possible to differentiate each note." Fred Crowder, Dagogo review of the MPS-5.
"On the Playback Designs, the English horn in the introduction is very rich tonally and quite close to the sound of the real instrument." same douche, same review..
Wow, what a great player; it lets you hear sound coming out of the speakers! Go out and spend $15,000 on it LOL! Give me an f-ing break, I could say that about the busted radio at the garage sale down the street! don't trust reviews, listen for yourself and then let us know which is better...
Actually, I understand the lack of currency you accord Fred Crowder's remarks (not Mr. Crowder personally) as well intentioned and heartfelt those remarks may have been. I was fortunate enough to inherit from my Dad a couple of hundred books on music (mostly jazz). Some of these books chronicle the early history of the music industry including early recordings and hi fidelity gear during the 30s, 40s, and 50s. It was not uncommon for commentators of the day to make remarks about their listening experiences that were not unlike those of what Mr. Crowder and others have said about Playback Designs and other gear, expensive and not so expensive.
I remember one commentator extolling the virtues and realism of the 1930s Baby Grand Philco Radio in terms that are more compelling than what I have ever read in "Stereophile" or "Absolute Sound". I suspect that even then there were those who agreed with the commentator as well as those who concurred. I have learned, not to summarily dismiss such descriptions and opinions, which we read practically everyday, but to include them among a dozen other factors, including other points of view.
Bottom line is that there is no substitute for a meaningful audition of said gear, preferably in one's own system coupled with a heavy dose of suspension of disbelief and hope that you don't have buyer's remorse. And to the greatest degree possible compare that gear/system/room not just to other gear but also to a live music reference (as difficult as that can be).
Robert C. Lang
Many listeners to this device claimed they couldn't hear any difference between it and live music. "Realism" has always been a moving target. I've never heard any system that I thought was indistinguishable from live, acoustical music, though some on some instruments came pretty close.
Joe
Hear Hear Hear!
Hear Hear Hear
You were right when you posted "Boy, am I in snarky mood this morning".
I have met Fred Crowder a couple of times and he's a true gentleman.
Regards,
Geoff
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