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RE: Because most think they're stupidly expensive and can't afford them they're bad?

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In Reply to: RE: Jay has made claim that he reached the holy grail of audio ... posted by trioderob on March 10, 2023 at 12:23:24

Fox, meet Grapes.

Me? I'd be interested to hear what the designer calls, "the synchronicity of the leading edge of each note" does for progress in speaker design.

As long as I've been involved in the pursuit of better home music reproduction, a very long time, there have been these same reactions to the next big and expensive thing. Many of the "breakthroughs" that contribute to prices deemed "outrageous" are revealed as simply marketing hype. Some though, over time become commonplace in affordable gear and make everyone's enjoyment better.

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RE: Because most think they're stupidly expensive and can't afford them they're bad? - Analog Scott 05:34:25 03/12/23 (4)
did somebody say they sound bad?
- RE: You are right - B. Scarpia 06:40:07 03/12/23 (3)
  Should have written 'not worth the price', or at least not worth 2 Maserati's.
  
  I was DST'd.
  
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  - RE: You are right - Analog Scott 07:01:32 03/12/23 (2)
    That is a different conversation. The opinion that a particular, luxury priced item is not worth the money may be sour grapes...or...maybe a well thought out opinion.
    
    Let's take the Wilson Chronosonics. Are they worth the money? Technically speaking the Wilsons do not measure exceptionally well. Not bad...unless you measure them in Michael Fremer's room...;-). They use off the shelf drivers so I hear...They use antiquated passive crossovers. What are you getting for $300+K? A lot of weight? Nice finish? Is that the point of a $300+K speaker system? To perform pretty well and look really cool?
    
    There are numerous speaker systems that are objectively more accurate and achieved that accuracy using cutting edge innovative designs and cutting edge measurements that Wilson neglects to do. And they do this for a fraction of the price.
    
    If some folks love Wilson speakers I have no problem with that. But being critical of their lack of performance for the price isn't necessarily sour grapes
    - I have heard the Chronosonics in a purpose built audio room. - srdavis2000 12:27:21 03/12/23 (1)
      The guy had a walkway and room built away from the main house. They sounded great on big orchestra stuff that a lot of smaller speakers can't pull off that well. I don't listen to big orchestra much. On more sparse and intimate material, I was surprised that I noticed sound coming from individual drivers. It's possible that they weren't properly adjusted.
      - RE: I have heard the Chronosonics in a purpose built audio room. - Terry 11:19:36 03/20/23 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I have heard the Chronosonics in a purpose built audio room. posted by srdavis2000 on March 12, 2023 at 12:27:21
        
        I have noticed with other Wilson speakers that I can hear the individual drivers with some music. I wonder if this might be due to the midrange driver being out of phase with the tweeter.
        Terry

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