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In Reply to: RE: You must understand posted by E-Stat on July 18, 2022 at 11:55:04
Angered by their honest, science and reality based reporting. Must be scary
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thoroughly amused. ;)
You must be a hoot at parties.
at least you guys had that in common. Mutual disrespect
Ammar Jadusingh, aka AJinFLA is a frustrated speaker designer who loved the term "voodoo" and hated everything that related to audiophiles. He had his minute in the spotlight ten years ago.
Here's a really funny post .
He most likely didn't like my bettering him. ;)
no doubt he thinks you are frustrated and didn't like him besting you. But is that the guy you want to be a match to?
Edits: 07/23/22
Voodoo and hates audiophiles? That sounds like our own Toxic Avenger. Are they the same person? OMG.
"Angered by their honest, science and reality based reporting. Must be scary"
When science is presented in an honest way, it is impossible for someone to get "angry" over it...... For real science always have a path for question and refinement.
If someone is getting angry over "science," it is likely because the science is being misrepresented with inflexible finality.....
sounds like a great philosophy and it just isn't reality. we still have creationism, climate change denial and people who insist the moon landing was faked.
Science denial has become the pervasive mind set in this country. Audiophilia is a poster child for it
"we still have creationism, climate change denial and people who insist the moon landing was faked."
Who's passing the first item as scientific? I've known people who think creation is a Biblical explanation of what took place in billions of years of evolution...... (The science wasn't well known in Biblical days.)
The second item, nobody can even come up with a definitive definition of "climate change"...... (Some people think that foreign powers are trying to "change the climate"..... ) Being vague is not part of the scientific method.... And accusing people of "denying" something vague is not scientific at all.
The third item can be explained scientifically..... (See link.) But questioning it does not necessarily make one "anti-science"..... It just needs to be explained better..... The best explanation for the moon landings is to ask whether low gravity can be replicated on a stage set...... To where it is indistinguishable from the footage taken from the Apollo moon landings. (It's almost impossible to walk at a fast enough speed to make jumping look like "slow motion" by comparison. The stage set must also be large enough because some objects were propelled at a long distance.)
"Science denial has become the pervasive mind set in this country."
There is no such thing as "science denial"..... Science is to be explained and/or questioned, not dogmatically believed or denied......
"Audiophilia is a poster child for it"
Not everybody has a science background..... Hence it should never be a requisite for audiophilia.....
One can try to explain the science, but those making buying decisions inconsistent with those explanations aren't "denying" science..... People like what they like, and are merely not buying into those explanations......
Improve the science, maybe more people will make decisions based on it.
Your biggest mistake is the belief that science at a given point has finality. Science can always be improved or refined, and should never become doctrine for how people should or should not behave.
Audiophilia is in my opinion an important check on the recording industry..... If audiophilia didn't exist, we'd now have every recording Auto-Tuned to where nothing would be recognizable anymore. Audiophiles questioned the science of Auto-Tune, for the betterment for both music and science. With the refinement of the science (thank you Wings of Pegasus), there is now no scientific explanation to justify its use.
Thank you for demonstrating my point
"Thank you for demonstrating my point"
You're welcome......
there's some kind of new theory now that the Grassy Noll shooter was from Virginia, and they are closing in
The word is knoll, not noll, Beavis.
get ready
Nt
pinhead GFY
Do you dress up in her clothes when you're feeling down?
Edits: 07/22/22 07/22/22
Pretty sure those are examples of non-scientific conspiracy theories. Another conspiracy theory I just ran across recently was the man who fatally shot JFK was a secret service guy In the car behind the JFK car who was holding an AR15 rifle that accidentally discharged during all the shooting when the car he was in suddenly braked. The AR15 was known to have an issue of firing inadvertently due to design flaw. Of course the fact is in the video JFKs slams violently BACK, and his brain matter blown all over the rear deck of the convertible he was riding in, which appears to refute any theory that includes shots fired from behind JFK, except possible the first one that hit him and those riding in the front seat.At the same time it would obviously be a logical error to make the argument that just because there are such things as conspiracy theories then anything you wish to discredit is non scientific or a conspiracy theory. As QAnalog Scott often does. In his works it's always the other guy who's not scientific. Lol
Edits: 07/22/22
"The AR15 was known to have an issue of firing inadvertently due to design flaw."
The Google search (link) suggests that this above statement is patently false..... Sorry......
Also note that saying an "AR15 has a design flaw" is like saying an "airplane has a design flaw"..... Both could have radically different designs (a Cessna and a Boeing 757, for example), yet still fall under such designations.
Now a specific airplane..... The Boeing 737 Max, for example, does have serious design flaws..... And I would personally avoid flying in that aircraft, if such occasion were to come forth. (There is probably a specific brand and model of AR15 that does have a problem with accidental discharges. But for one model of AR15 that has such flaw, there are over hundreds of brands and models that don't.)
"At the same time it would obviously be a logical error to make the argument that just because there are such things as conspiracy theories then anything you wish to discredit is non scientific or a conspiracy theory."
The term "conspiracy theory" has been bandied about too often in recent time, often treating the one stating it was someone who should be banned from discussion forums. (I've personally been banned from a discussion board expressly for "posting conspiracy theories"... ) It's as if stating a "conspiracy theory" is even worse than stating a lie.
Actually, if you look deeper you'll find the reason the military didn't buy the AR15 until the beginning of Vietnam era several years later was because the "fatal design flaw" - so to speak - was a firing pin that was too heavy, causing the AR15 to sometimes suddenly fire without warning. But the SS Secret Service used them AR15s back then because of their great firepower, using 7.62 NATO rounds. AND selectable automatic or semiautomatic fire. So, in fact the conspiracy theory is plausible from that angle of a misfiring AR15 right behind the Kennedy limo at a moment when the SS car lurched or braked suddenly. OR it could have been intentional, an even better conspiracy theory. You know, what with the missing texts and everything. The SS was part of a bigger conspiracy. Recall the second investigation found there was probably a conspiracy involved but ran out of funding before going further.
"Actually, if you look deeper you'll find the reason the military didn't buy the AR15 until the beginning of Vietnam era several years later was because the 'fatal design flaw' - so to speak - was a firing pin that was too heavy, causing the AR15 to sometimes suddenly fire without warning."
Firing pin too heavy? I Googled the subject matter and....... (Three results.... No mention of AR15..... )
I hope you're not making this up.
Include these statements (from official report)
"Scientific acoustical evidence establishes a high probability that two gunmen fired at President John F. Kennedy. Other scientific evidence does not preclude the possibility of two gunmen firing at the President. Scientific evidence negates some specific conspiracy allegations.
The committee believes, on the basis of the evidence available to it, that President John F. Kennedy was probably assassinated as a result of a conspiracy. The committee is unable to identify the other gunman or the extent of the conspiracy."
Recall the conspiracy theory can be either accidental or on purpose shooting. The accidental shooting could have involved his finger on the trigger OR not on the trigger. I should add that the violent backward motion of jfk's head at moment of impact seems to indicate a shooter in front of jfk, not behind him. The huge hole in the BACK of jfk's head the same.
As often pointed out the flat trajectory of that bullet that struck his head doesn't match the trajectory of the first bullet, the one that hit his throat and went on to wound the two guys in the front seat. The one presumably from book depository. So, then you've got yourself a REAL CONSPIRACY on your hands, right? Which is what the second assassination commission concluded, that the murder was a conspiracy, not a single shooter (Oswald or whoever).
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