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alan m. kafton

In Reply to: RE: But... posted by geoffkait on February 09, 2021 at 14:48:55

It's highly likely that the Tweek users purchased a fake or knock-off. There is no way to know. But there is direct testimony and experience backing the use of Stabilant, and that use over many years has been exemplary. Ergo, the two products are NOT one and the same.

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There is an old axiom... - geoffkait 05:02:50 02/10/21 (0)
If you want to make a small fortune in audio start off with a big fortune. I suspect if someone wanted to make some money he would not (rpt not) choose an obscure audiophile tweak like Tweek to fake. There aren't enough potential customers and the cost per bottle is too low.
"Direct testimony and experience" - geoffkait 03:31:27 02/10/21 (9)
This happens a lot for audiophile tweaks. The streets are littered with examples of tweaks that got very mixed results. To whit, the Tice Clock, CD liquids, silver based contact enhancers, the Intelligent Chip, audiophile fuses, the ERS anti RFI cloth, crystals, Silver Rainbow Foil, wire directionality, Cables, VPI Brick, Schumann Frequency Generator. Both sides swear on a stack of bibles their testimony is the truth. To say all those who had negative results with an audiophile tweak must have bought a fake product appears to be an illogical argument.

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- Everything you stated is irrelevant. [nt] - alan m. kafton 00:09:55 02/11/21 (8)
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  - RE: Everything you stated is irrelevant. [nt] - wood1 03:03:54 02/11/21 (6)
    I first started using Stabilant 22 when I bought my first set of High
    Fidelity cables some 6 or 7 years ago as they came treated with it.
    IMHO Rick Schultz is a pretty smart dude and wouldn't be shipping
    his product with something that would promote oxidation or worse.
    He now ships his cables with a small container of 22 and brush.
    At that time I did my research and found that the U.S. military,
    Boeing and many other corporations use 22 with great results.
    
    I have used 22 for 6 years or so with NO ISSUES and this is
    specifically why I use it. It is apply, set and forget - completely!
    Will it completely elevate your listening experience as a lot of
    the other coatings, pastes and enhancers have claimed, NO, but it
    will ensure proper electrical connections without ever having to
    twist or push/pull from time to time and that itself makes for the
    best tweak ( and cheapest ) that I have ever found.
    - Exactly....thank you. - alan m. kafton 12:01:06 02/13/21 (0)
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    - RE: Everything you stated is irrelevant. [nt] - geoffkait 03:41:33 02/11/21 (4)
      The military and Boeing are actually not good examples. Nor would NASA be. Nice name dropping however. I was one of the very first to buy Sumiko Tweek all those years ago so it's highly improbably that I bought a fake. And yes, it turned a greenish black.
      
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      - Stabilant does not turn a "greenish black".... - alan m. kafton 12:00:31 02/13/21 (3)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Everything you stated is irrelevant. [nt] posted by geoffkait on February 11, 2021 at 03:41:33
        
        ....and again, everything else you stated is irrelevant.
        
        It must have been a fake. LOL nt - geoffkait 04:34:22 02/14/21 (2)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Stabilant does not turn a "greenish black".... posted by alan m. kafton on February 13, 2021 at 12:00:31
        
        Nt
        
        Made My Own Stabilant 22A Sample......... - Todd Krieger 15:23:14 02/19/21 (1)
        
        In Reply to: RE: It must have been a fake. LOL nt posted by geoffkait on February 14, 2021 at 04:34:22
        
        I got some Stabilant 22 and 99.9 percent isopropyl alcohol..... Made the 22A solution per the recommended 4:1 ratio..... (The resultant fluid seems somewhat "thinner" than the Sumiko Tweek product I once tried.) Applied it to some RF adapters I use for digital matching terminations..... I don't know if it's "placebo effect", but at first listen, it seems to improve the sound of my CD sources......
        I applied the product to the adapters, the worst case scenario is the oxidation taking out the inexpensive adapters (I would just replace them)..... (If the sound of the CD sources goes downhill over the next six months, that would be a sign of oxidation.) I will of course monitor things over the next few months, and hopefully the next few years.
        
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        RE: Made My Own Stabilant 22A Sample......... - alan m. kafton 14:05:13 02/23/21 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Made My Own Stabilant 22A Sample......... posted by Todd Krieger on February 19, 2021 at 15:23:14
        
        I apply mine 'straight' without dilution, with the tiny brush supplied with the product. The application is easy, and the Stabilant viscous....no running. It stays put on whatever surface its applied.
        
        Applying it straight seems to have a more powerful sonic effect (I believe) due to its viscosity....it's filling in more micro-imperfections in the metal surfaces and coats all the strands in twisted, stranded wire.
  - Oh, I forgot Cable break in. :-) nt - geoffkait 02:42:40 02/11/21 (0)
    Nt

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