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In Reply to: RE: My first big audio show posted by pictureguy on June 06, 2017 at 11:04:53
Those hotels, the Atrium and Hilton, were directly across from John Wayne Airport. T.H.E. Show moved (I think 3 years ago) to the Hotel Irvine, just a couple of miles away.
Unfortunately, a change in management no longer wanted the convention and would not renew the multi-year contract....hence, 2016 was the last year at the Hotel Irvine. Then there were "artistic differences" between the show director and the new owner of T.H.E. Show (Richard Beers, the wonderful host and owner passed away, bequeathing it to a long-time friend). A new site had to be found.
A new investment group decided to back the show director and contracted with the Sheraton Gateway LAX for one year. We'll see if there is a second L.A.A.S. at a new location. The most difficult thing in producing an audio show is finding a hotel that is willing to remove furniture....most won't.
I get a slightly different take from a friend here in SD who is 'in the loop' of at least part of what went on.
Depending on 'the numbers' the LAAS will indeed be back. It's just so darn inconvenient for those of us living even South of Orange County, not to mention anyone from Riverside or San Bernadino who wish to attend.
That hotels probably hate moving hundreds of rooms worth of furniture? You Bet. And downstairs in the dining rooms, for big events, tables must go and arrangements made for lectures and such. Hundreds of hours of labor both Before AND After!
I'm certain all those extra costs are factored into 'room rent' or 'show fees' or however it is phrased.
Too much is never enough
i can identify with the distanced problem but the OC location of THE SHOW is 61 miles from my home in canyon country. how far isit from your home to LAX?
95+ to LAX. Thru some horrrible traffic which is 'show time'.
That's just the tip-of-the-Berg.
Ya gotta come HOME, too. So now were talking about 100 miles MORE. Did I mention the traffic up in LA?
Round trip drive-time would be At Least 6 hours.
If my time were worth anything, It'd actually be cheaper for me to FLY from the nearby town of Carlsbad IF they still had commercial service to LAX.
I'm about 60 or so the John Wayne Airport.......same as you. Where the heck IS 'Canyon Country'?
Too much is never enough
We agree on all that you mentioned. However, a big stumbling block (for this show....and I heard it from numerous attendees including exhibitors) was the location. "LAX?? Really??" was the universal comment. Traffic on the 405 and the 105 is ridiculous at certain times of the day, and makes the decision of attending (for local residents) one for second-guessing. Many felt this was the reason for what appeared to be lower attendance.
I have no doubt that some declined. Orange County has been a much better bet. The San Fernando Valley would be another possibility, although it's rather far from much of Southern California.
For me, at about 100 miles Each Way, I'm looking at 2 hours each way, traveling at some ridiculous times. I'm closest of all SD residents.
With real conditions? I'm certain that 6 to 7 hours realistic would be more like it. I worked in El Segundo many years ago and would go to work on Monday to arrive by 0730 and stay until Friday and start home about 1430 or so. Miss your 'window' and spend an extra hour on the road. OOOPS! It was easy driving to work from the hotel about 5 miles each way. I was right next to the Matel Corporate Store. HOT WHEELS!
I gave myself 3+ hours TO work and about the same on return.
The 5 / 405 split is EPIC. Even at 0530 on a Monday.
I briefly considering FLYING up from Carlsbad to LAX. I did that 20 years ago to catch a flight to Europe. Now? No commercial makes that short hop. But OH! the time saving. Get dropped off at the airport and an hour later, hop out of the plane @LAX. Turbo Prop is like that! Hotel Shuttle from airport to show.
I EVEN considered taking the TRAIN. Public Bus from Union Station to the hotel. Or even hop off the train in Anaheim and take the shuttle from Disneyland to LAX than the hotel shuttle. I could hardly imagine unwinding THAT trip later that night. I'm too old to Sleep in a Train Station!
I went to the Getty Center years ago with my Neice. We took my S-2000. I figured I was only 2 turns away from outrunning ANYTHING else on the road. Nearly. Joke on ME. On the 405 NORTH of the Airport? Traffic was UnImaginable. Took forever go get home. Location was even north of Brentwood.
Too much is never enough
....the traffic is horrendous, almost everywhere, unless you're driving in the wee hours. For me, driving to and from Phoenix, I choose late evenings. If I don't leave L.A., or Long Beach, or Irvine by 2 p.m. I drive right into a parking lot on the 60 East or 91 East. That takes (at least) 2 to 2 1/2 hours just to get to Riverside! Leaving after 8 p.m. usually avoids that bottleneck.
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