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In Reply to: RE: Rap always gets a bad rap.... posted by viridian on May 28, 2017 at 11:30:51
My problem with rap isn't that it's vulgar or offensive..... My problem with rap is that everything sounds the same....
The lyrics might be original, the lyrics might be clever..... But the musical element is a copy from one song to the next..... It's the most boring music that I've ever experienced, on purely musical terms.
If one can relate to the lyrics, that's fine. But I find listening to rap more like listening to poetry than listening to music.
Follow Ups:
Ha! See what I did there? It rhymes. ;)
I don't have "a problem" with rap crap. It's just bad, mad, sad sound all around. That's what I've found.
And, yes, it all sounds the same. It's lame. Don't matter the name. Damn shame.
And, it's the main driving force, of course, for one-note subwoofers which are a neighborhood blight, ain't I right? And not just at night, even during the day, when the Sun be bright.
Ok, that's all I got. Not. I could write more, but I gots to go see my (fill in this space).
:)
He's a poet
and he doesn't even know it...
Cheers
Welly
He hoped and prayed that there wasn't an afterlife. Then he realized there was a contradiction involved here and merely hoped that there wasn't an afterlife.
- Douglas Adams
The most hilarious rap I've ever heard (aside from Sir Mixalot "Baby Got Back") was Dr. Seuss children's poems done to a rap format..... It was hilarious because the lyrics fit the "rap" format like a glove........
All he needs is a scratch DJ and a Pro Tools rig..... It shouldn't be difficult to find music clips to "loop"..... The hard part is knowing the right producer to get airplay......
The only rapper that I can think of who uses mostly real musicians/instruments is Snoop Dogg..... (If there is "audiophile rap", it's Snoop Dogg.) But he's also the master of vulgar..... Not something you would want play if you have little ones running around.
Hahahaha! Thanks, guys.
Actually, when I still lived in Green Bay (home of the Superbowl champion Green Bay Packers), I tried my hand for one, count 'em, night at DJ-ing at a local nightclub. I played Marvin Gaye, Barry White, Otis Redding, and some other stuff. Not my good buddy Luther Allison - he wasn't appropriate for the venue. ;)
I was told to quit playin' that "N..." music. That's ok. Live and learn. I still say Otis Redding, who's at the bottom of the lake in Madison, WI, is one of the greats of pop/R&B music. And Marvin Gaye's "Let's Get It On" is right up there, too. (Along with Led Zeppelin's "Whole Lotta Love", but that's another story.)
So I left Green Bay, and moved to Madison, where I discovered The Parthenon Gyros Restaurant.
Just when y'all thought I was the whitest cracker in the box, the other soft shoe drops.
:)
"My problem with rap is that everything sounds the same...."
Yeah : "BOOM mufuka BOOM mufuka BOOM mufuka BOOM mufuka"
Some say people like Frank Zappa and a few others were the forerunners of rap but I do not agree.
I think John Lennon did it first, No 9, No 9---------. What a rap.
Bill
I think the first "rap" song was Tom Waits' "Step Right Up"..... The vulgar lyrics and vocal style originated from a group called "The Last Poets"........
Edits: 05/29/17
Rap music for white people. Walton and Sitwell did it first - in 1923! ;-)
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I sampled the piece..... Heard influences of Gilbert and Sullivan.....
So maybe Gilbert and Sullivan?
Operatic "recitative" might actually be the "original rap".........
Except that recitative is sung on pitch (in a rhythm which allows for fairly wide latitude), whereas the rhythmic recitations of Façade are spoken in strict rhythm. Maybe we could say that recitative is an "influence" on Rap? ;-)
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