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In Reply to: RE: The MP3 is finally dead posted by Jeffrey Lee on May 15, 2017 at 05:32:45
What exactly does this mean ? I have a ton of MP3s downloaded over decades, I even went through multiple copies to keep the highest bitrate files.Does this mean that modern players will not play these files ? Mine are all on an old XP box that isn't even online at the moment. Microsoft isn't going to come along and remove CODECs are they ? I wouldn't put it past them but I have all updates shut off on all PCs all the time except for the AV program.
If they are just talking about streaming then the impact means practically nothing. I haven't seen a streamed MP3 in years, the cheap ones like FLV on youtube are all MP4 now, and the higher end formats have nothing to do with MP3s either.
If Windows 10 going to stop playing MP3s ?
Thing is, most of my stuff is so old that a decent bitrate MP3 works just fine. Even at that I have been surprised by the quality at times.
What exactly are they unlicensing ?
Edits: 05/15/17Follow Ups:
Did you read the article below? The patents on it expired, that's all. Your Mp3s will still work. In fact they will become more common because more programs will be able to include the codecs for free in their software. Mp3s aren't going anywhere. I hope you got all of yours for free, because that's about what they are worth. 320kbps AAC does sound pretty decent, that is if you are strapped for storage space or bandwidth.
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"Did you read the article below? The patents on it expired, that's all."
I hadn't read the techdirt article when I asked. I have now.
"I hope you got all of yours for free, because that's about what they are worth"
I did, and I justified it with the fact that for one, most of what I downloaded I already has bought. In fact I bought a few things several times. If it is their contention that it is the material not the media then they should provide replacements at pressing cost for any scratched up workout material I have, since I have already paid for it.
Other things were fully justified by the fact that most of what I downloaded had already been in public domain. Then it was not. Well I am part of the public so where is my check ? If it got sold, who sold it ?
I was chomping at the bit for them to sue me and try to bully me like they did those Grandparents. I might be old enough but I am not scared of them.
These people want to work once and keep on getting paid forever, and the main reason for that is that what they put out now is mostly junk.
Last Christmas I googled the lyrics to Handel's, "Messiah." I noticed that the lyrics had been copyrighted by Sony Corp. I wondered, how the F are these lyrics owned by Sony?What was the old law? 27 years before music passed into the public domain? It just goes to show what kind of base whores our politicians are that they will do anything for anybody as long as they get paid.
The Beatles, the Stones, and even Snow White should be in the public domain by now, but the corporations with the money paid the bribes to keep them in their pocket.
What is it now? The life of the artist plus 75 years?
I'll just leave it at that.
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Edits: 05/17/17
My first MP3 experience was downloading tracks on Napster. The computer I was using was so slow that it could not even play MP3s(100mhz 486). I upgraded to a 100mhz Pentium computer that could play MP3s which I used to record to cassette and listen to on headphones at work.Eventually I got a CD "Burner" and realised that MP3s were lacking in quality compared to the .wav files I could rip from prerecorded CDs. I only had dial up so larger files, which were not incredibly common at that point anyway, were off the menu.
After I got my first "cable modem" it made the task of downloading 3-5 copies of each track on an album to find the least awful sounding to burn a free CD easier. Back then the ripping and encoding quality varied widely depending on what software and CD ROM drive was being used.
Downloading ISO images of CDs was a thing for about 30 seconds before I discovered FLAC files which quickly became very popular on bittorrent tracker sites. Several music only bittorrent sites popped up and were not yet "invite only".
After pretty much anything worth listening to became available on FLAC I adopted an unofficial "no MP3" policy on my computers. That was about a decade ago.
MP3s were once essential in a world of tiny storage capacities and dial up internet connections, but serve no purpose with the multi terabyte hard drives and multi megabyte per second internet connections that are now the standard.
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I think you are absolutely correct. Mp3s where a solution for the technical environment they operated in. They are now as obsolete as the dial up modems and small hard drives they were used in conjunction with.
I've always been a late adopter. I had friends that were deep into computers and Napster at the time you reference. To me computers and the internet were useless until they reached a certain level of advancement. I know I missed out on a lot, but I also didn't have to watch the screen take minutes to load a webpage.
I tried P2P sharing a couple of times, but found I picked up more viruses than anything useful, so I shied away from that, and have never tried bit torrent sites. To be honest the "dark web" scares me a little, and I have no wish to see the things that are there.
Now we are entering the time of hi-res downloads. I don't mind paying the money really. Yes I have bought the same music many times over, but the record companies are finally offering what I consider a superior product, so I don't really begrudge paying a premium for it, and they are asking top dollar to be sure. Hopefully internet speeds will keep getting faster and one day streaming 24/192 will be an everyday occurrence. My internet speeds are not there yet.
To get deep for a second, I think we are at the closing end of the golden age of the internet. TPTB have finally figured out what a threat it is to them, and they are starting to take steps to censor it. Companies like Google, FB, twitter, reddit, youtube, and all the other major players are doing exactly as they have been instructed; censor incorrect thought, and scrub it's existence away. Google is nobody's friend. It will be easy for TPTB because so much ownership has now been concentrated in so few hands. It may be in the next decade that free-thinkers and dissidents will have to move to the dark web to be able to communicate with each other. I hope not.
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I'll just add that the elephant in the room is advertising. Advertising on the Internet - especially video clips, along with data collection, consume a large portion of the bandwidth for the average user. In professional environments/applications, it's not such a big deal, since they're not "surfing" sites with advertising, but for the millions and millions and millions of home users around the world, it's a big deal and affects their effective connection performance. There's currently a "race" to build faster (so-called "5G") networks and gigabit-per-second speeds. This is largely due to video uploading/downloading/streaming, but also to facilitate even more sophisticated and pervasive video advertising.
I remember back in the mid-nineties, when it became clear that the Internet would develop as a "free" service driven by advertising, with only a small monthly access fee. Here we are.
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I'm probably the only person on this site who doesn't use AdBlock, but that is about to change.
On the home computer it doesn't bother me so much, but the pop up video ads on my cellphone do, and I think they use up my data allowance, which is probably their real function in the first place. Somehow in the span of a couple of months my data usage went from almost nothing to being the same as my niece who streams music. Nothing else about my net surfing changed.
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"and I think they use up my data allowance, which is probably their real function in the first place"
Actually I think they are buying influence. I remember someone getting killed due to a mistake on the power company's part and all the sudden you saw ads for the electric company splattered across all the news shows in town. In most places around here they had/have a monopoly. Why should they spend the money on ads ? Those TV ads are very expensive.
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