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In Reply to: Re: When does a better mouse trap turn distasteful carboncopy cloning? posted by Peter Daniel on July 08, 2003 at 16:00:24:
>>. You've probably also noticed that a PS case used by 47Labs is close resemblance of M-F X series cases, yet nobody seemed to complain.==They're both round. The MF an aloomineeum extrusion with heatsinks built in and legs. Power Humpty is much larger metal(sheet? tubing?), black with insect like feet. I so very little similar design wise..
>>But it appears, that this method of building a small chasis is the best for that type of design.
==Perhaps, yes. Perhaps really just like anything else better and fresher designs appear everyday.
>>The market place has tons of products looking like the original with some differences: from cars to jeans to shoes to soft drinks. Ever wonder why all soda cans have same shape and volume? It is the free market entreprise and anything that is not copy protected/patented can be emulated.
==Taste. It's the real thing. Even if it's seaweed wrapped french fries, or saki and a cheeseburger?
TC
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> > They're both round. The MF an aloomineeum extrusion with heatsinks built in and legs. Power Humpty is much larger metal(sheet? tubing?), black with insect like feet. I so very little similar design wise.. < <This makes me think you are forgetting that my amp is also much larger, different color and totally different feet (only 3 of them) ;-)
> > Perhaps, yes. Perhaps really just like anything else better and fresher designs appear everyday. < <
I dare to say that our chassis is much better designed and the fit is much better also. We are not using rods to hold it together, but press fitting, which is self centering and structuraly more rigid. Only 4 screws at the bottom provide additional protection. We chose clear anodizing as it seems to be more trendy thse days.
I never saw a real GainCard so I cannot comment on the taste.
> > This makes me think you are forgetting that my amp is also much larger, different color and totally different feet (only 3 of them) ;-)==It still *reeks* of the aforementioned "Japanese (47)" influence, from a purely cosmetic POV.
I looked at the acrylic model.
Why oh why was not that design or similar, the one to mkt? Way better appearance/cosmetics. Ninja pookey meets George Jetson. And if they (acrylic)are more expensive to produce, that's a *challenge* well worth persuing. To establish a "uniqueness" and identifiable, personal look. Definition of a well thought out product. As 47 had back when.
The "acrylic" succeeds on it's own right far far better (than AMP-1) as a way to show your consierable engineering/assembly skills. Me I'd be making hard maple ones.
And seeing the "acrylic" one proves to me that gaincards can be creatiive and unique. You have poisoned your own argument defending the AMP-1 "lookalike" by showing us the better design example.
TC
TC
Thanks for your appreciation. I also liked the acrylic one, but my partner, insisted on marketing the aluminum body amp. He probably saw a bigger potential in it.;-)Initial testing showed also that aluminum body amp sounds somewhat better than acrylic amp (uing same parts, the only exception being the pots). So the tubing must be doing something good to the amp's structure. I'm currently working on a custom order, which is a gainclone made out of maple and in a cube shape.So your taste is quite good. Will see how it turns out. If it will look good and sound well, it might be my next project, but don't tell me I'm copying your idea.
But the truly good GainClone amp will be a pair of monoblocks as this takes away the variable of PS cords (which affect the sound in a big way) as well potentiomemters will be out, blaming a preamp stage for their defficiency. I've built the prototype and it appears to be better than AMP-1.
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