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RE: R.E.M. (Or maybe other WMG?) DVD-As: Layer separation / degradation problem

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In Reply to: RE: R.E.M. (Or maybe other WMG?) DVD-As: Layer separation / degradation problem posted by tcp100 on June 10, 2011 at 21:55:39

I have not noticed this on my DVD-As. But I will check my older Warners ones later today JIC. I have never even seen anyone discuss "DVD-A rot" specifically, though "DVD rot" is well-known so it's not really surprising DVD-A rot (or whatever...a gradual shift to unplayability) should be out there.

But there is another vaguely similar, and possibly related, topic going around the web relatively recently. It has to do with mostly *dual layer* HD-DVDs. The Warner ones, and almost exclusively theirs, are developing severe playback problems now. [HD-DVDs aren't that old, but the format is a helluva lot more "dead" than DVD-A market-wise, if there are levels of deadness, but I bet more people are out there regularly playing more HD-DVDs than DVD-As. HD-DVDs for the most part are very good, and cost peanuts after WB bailed.]

Though the media are different, they are (perhaps obviously) *much* more technically similar than DVD and BD are (why HD-DVD was preferred over BD by some companies: existing manufacturing capability) and they *may* use some similar manufacturing technology in both of them that is the problem. For instance, Universal had lots of issues with the glue they used to join dual-sided discs together (since allegedly improved for current hybrids...a few years will show). Not glue in these DVD-As, but I'm just saying there could be some technology these WB discs share that is causing them to prematurely get effed...and you may want to check out those HD-DVD threads (lots in Germany, but English) to see what they're saying now as I haven't kept up on it for a couple weeks.

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RE: R.E.M. (Or maybe other WMG?) DVD-As: Layer separation / degradation problem - tcp100 08:05:44 06/13/11 (5)
Oy. That's not good; I have a lot of HD-DVD too. :(

I've been checking these discs on every player I have - fails on every single one.

It's clearly a case of either a progressive rot, or something bad from the get-go.

Not good news, but not sure if there's much that can be done about it? WMG just gives an address to mail discs to, and says basically you'll get a replacement in 6-8 weeks, no other information.
- RE: R.E.M. (Or maybe other WMG?) DVD-As: Layer separation / degradation problem - cfraser 11:55:05 06/14/11 (0)
  The rot problem for DVD-As is more affecting because replacements aren't usually easily available. I have very recently played all my favorite DVD-As with no probs, and all my faves (and most expensive to replace) just happen to be WB. Yikes...
  
  As for HD-DVDs, at least if you're in the U.S., Warner will exchange the HD-DVDs for BDs where titles available.
- RE: R.E.M. (Or maybe other WMG?) DVD-As: Layer separation / degradation problem - radiodaddy 14:22:50 06/13/11 (3)
  Thanks for the word. I'll try out my WB DVD-As, esp the REMs, later. Seriously doubt the place you got it from has anything to do with it - they were probably all manufactured at the same factory, possibly in the same run(s). It's not like they were moving Gaga numbers on 'em.
  
  I wouldn't hold my breath on returning it to the manufacturer. Don't think they have any replaccements sitting in a warehouse.
  - My WMG Jackson Browne DVD-A just died in this manner. - Michi 14:08:29 10/31/11 (2)
    WMG Jackson Browne "Running on Empty" DVD-A in cd/dvd digipak - won't play past the layer break.
    
    Same packaging and pressing indications as my REM discs which, are still playing, but I'm guessing will not forever.
    
    It would be great if WMG would address this but I'm sure they won't; they consider the format dead and probably figure you got your money's worth out of it, in their opinion.
    
    It's a shame that some of these discs are getting hard to find and even buying new likely will just result in the same trouble. No place else to get these recordings in 5.1 or hi-rez, either.
    - Now my Doors "Perception" discs are becoming unreadable. - Michi 13:42:50 11/16/11 (1)
      Original Doors "Perception" CD+DVDA box set, all but "LA Woman" are unreadable near the layer break.
      
      No luck whatsoever getting a response from Rhino/Warner so far.
      - RE: Now my Doors "Perception" discs are becoming unreadable. - Michi 22:06:29 11/28/11 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Now my Doors "Perception" discs are becoming unreadable. posted by Michi on November 16, 2011 at 13:42:50
        
        Wrote to WMG and Rhino (3 addresses total) last week via email about this.. Not a single reply, not even a form letter.

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