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PaulN

In Reply to: RE: Adcom R2R BB63 posted by scriabin on June 18, 2024 at 08:02:46

The May attains signal-to-noise figures at the threshold of electron noise and has an effective resolution of more than 22 bits, neither of which the PCM63 can match.

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"threshold of electron noise"? gimme a break ! - AbeCollins 19:24:08 06/21/24 (2)
"...attains signal-to-noise figures at the threshold of electron noise"
I'm not saying the May isn't special but come on....
"threshold of electron noise" matters not for HiFi but applicable to LNA for radio astronomy or medical instrumentation. Never seen Friis formulas applied to HiFi.

Edits: 06/21/24
- I was being intentionally hyperbolic... - PaulN 14:57:44 06/23/24 (1)
  to make a point. Its is a very, very, very quiet DAC, despite being a ladder DAC. I honestly don't think much about the specs, I just listen. But you are made aware when you do listen that the sound come out of inky blackness and the soundfield is incredibly coherent ans stable, both of which I would attribute to that S/N ratio.
  - Hard to tell as this is an audiophile forum ;-) - AbeCollins 15:25:43 06/23/24 (0)
    nt
RE: I wouldn't bet on it. - morricab 04:04:47 06/20/24 (4)
And neither of which will dictate if he prefers the sound of it or not.
- Anyone that didn't prefer - PaulN 15:53:31 06/20/24 (3)
  the May to an Adcom would be deaf. The May is a bespoke product like Ferrari and highly biased into class-A in the discrete output stage. While the Adcoms sounded pretty good in their day and offered HDCD decoding in their digital filter chip, they are more akin to a Hyundai. I have never heard a better DAC than the May and at it's level, the differences between products in minimal technically and mostly flavors of tuning.
  - RE: Anyone that didn't prefer - morricab 05:36:23 06/21/24 (2)
    Well, a friend of mine had their level 2 DAC (not the May but same tech) and it was destroyed by my Ayon DAC and a Lampizator Atlantic TRP2 DAC. Wasn't really close in terms of actual listening...sorry to point out the obvious but the measurements themselves don't mean much for how somethign sounds.
    - the measurements themselves don't mean much - mitch2 19:35:06 06/23/24 (1)
      "the measurements themselves don't mean much for how something sounds"
      
      Owned a Tambaqui last year and still own the excellent measuring Benchmark DAC3 HGC. Sold the Tambaqui, and the Benchmark now sits in a box. I like the sound of my two Mojo Audio R2R DACs better. Those Mojo DACs use old AD-1862N (special Z version) chips and they only process up to 24/192 but to me they sound tonally rich and musically satisfying while the Tambaqui, which I characterized as sounding mostly perfect, just didn't provide the same level of enjoyment.
      - RE: the measurements themselves don't mean much - morricab 02:48:39 06/28/24 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: the measurements themselves don't mean much posted by mitch2 on June 23, 2024 at 19:35:06
        
        Exactly! I have a friend with a Tambaqui and it just detaches me from the music.
        
        My Ayon Skylla II DAC with BB PCM1704s and tube output stage sounds resolved, full and engaging.

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