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Although I dumped vinyl back in the 80's. . .

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In Reply to: RE: What does really good digital sound like? posted by geoffkait on October 24, 2021 at 03:49:07

. . . I've been to enough shows to hear its "progress" in the meantime. (Unless you're contending that none of the vinyl set-ups at shows are any good?)

Aside from the sound itself, one of the main problems with analog for me is that the VAST majority of releases I'm interested in are simply unavailable as LP's.

Anyway, I'm not that impressed, even with a "good analog system" (in comparison to digital). But if other people are, then far be it from me to impugn their judgment. ;-)

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RE: Although I dumped vinyl back in the 80's. . . - Todd Krieger 01:32:18 10/25/21 (0)
I know too many people who dumped vinyl in the 1980s, and have later regretted it......

A lot of them just threw their vinyl in the trash..... Some have had collections that today would have been worth at least ten grand......

I was asked in the early 1990s why I still had vinyl..... At the time, I thought CD was a hopelessly flawed playback source...... (Prior to that Wadia moment I had in Cleveland... ) I think too many people presumed the medium was "superior" to vinyl, believing what they've been told over what they may have been hearing..... (I was often ridiculed as being "nostalgic" way back then, for sticking to vinyl..... )

I remember one person telling me, "CD seems to sound 'unpleasant,' but music is *supposed* to sound like that...." Aside from Gabe Wiener, from a technical perspective, that individual was the first I had "heated" debates in regard to the two mediums..... Gabe claimed the resolution of CD was beyond that of human hearing..... I strongly disagreed with him back then, but in recent time, I would have agreed somewhat..... I do believe there is a "vagueness" to the extreme top that doesn't exist with vinyl or higher resolution digital audio..... (This "vagueness" is the very thing I've been trying to minimize all these years. The Wadia 9 DAC was maybe the best performer I've ever encountered in this regard.) I still think the top-end "vagueness" with Redbook CD is a lesser evil than the lost listenability of digital audio at higher resolutions. Two artifacts that don't exist with vinyl or open reel tape playback.
RE: Although I dumped vinyl back in the 80's. . . - geoffkait 13:00:28 10/24/21 (0)
You might be right about availability but that's a different argument. I have no argument with availability. Everything is relative. "Good analog" provides subjective and technical performance characteristics "good digital" can't. Obviously there is a boatload of things that can be done to improve and given system. It depends on what floats your boat. If you want to talk about off-the-shelf untweaked systems they're all pretty much junk if you ask me. Booooring!

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