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My cd player quit working this morning. The nerve! It's only 11 years
old! It was working fine the other night. When I tried to play a disc
this morning, nothing. "Error" it says. Error indeed.
I am in contact with the manufacturer (Bryston) who advise that if the
laser is bad, then the whole unit is kaput because repair parts are no
longer available. I contacted a reputable electronics repair shop in
Portland, who advise that it can be cleaned/lubed/etc., but if that does
not fix the problem, then further repair is not possible. Grrrrrrrrrr.
There is no competent electronic repair in my immediate area - the
nearest is 150 miles away. Grrrrrrrr.
I suppose I shall attempt to remove the top cover and see if I can clean
the laser myself. Which means I have to find and purchase the proper
tool(s). Again, grrrrrrrrrrr.
I fear that I will have to purchase a cd transport (I have an external
dac). Which one would you recommend that does not cost silly money?
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein
Follow Ups:
I thought Bryston always touted a 25 year warranty on everything?
If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!
Apparently, their digital products only carry a 5yr warranty - still better than a lot of other brands.
too bad, at their prices they should be very strong with warranties, tech support, and customer loyalty efforts.
I always thought of them as sort of McIntosh lite. Maybe not though...
If art interprets our dreams, the computer executes them in the guise of programs!
How many hours use do you reckon you had from it?
Unlike lasers developed for telecommunications applications, consumer IR lasers around 780nm are only good for around 7000 to 10000 hours tops. Lasers fail due to internal heat build up which can be due to impurities in the substrate or externally applied heat from proximity to the motor, power supplies etc. 10 years is actually quite a generous service life for a consumer device.
It's not Bryston's fault they don't have spares - manufacturers discontinue/obsolete components quickly when demand drops off for a component. Bryston are then forced to go to alternative suppliers who will often have a mix of "good" product and possible unreliable components. It isn't worth their while to do a lifetime buy on an obsolete product that has low demand when they may have to waste some of the stock piled components and honour a warranty on the repair - the costs just don't make sense for them. Also, the spares will have a shelf life too which means that the spares may not work due to capacitors drying out etc. It's a financial risk that isn't worth the benefit....even if that means driving a consumer to a competitor. Bryston's core specialty has always been their power amps and pre-amps anyway.
Regards Anthony
"Beauty is Truth, Truth Beauty.." Keats
Well, I was going to ship the unit to Bryston for possible repair. Then
I got the quote for packing and shipping: $135.00. I declined the offer.
Then I got to thinking: $135 to ship to Bryston, $100 or so return shipping, and $200 minimum for repairs (if such are possible). So if the
unit is repairable, it's going to cost me $435 minimum. Not worth it,
methinks. So I purchased a Cambridge CXC V2 for $599 from Audioadvisor
which will be here late this week. The only reason I bought the Cambridge
is that it is a tray loader; I do not like slot loaders. And it has a 3
year warranty if you register the unit with Cambridge, which I assuredly
shall do. In the meantime, I'm using an old Yamaha 5cd changer I bought
from my neighbor for $35. It sounds decent.
I shall run the Cambridge thru the DAC in my PS Audio Stellar GCD, which
is a Sabre 9028, if memory serves. Before the Bryston died, I could do
instant A-B comparisions between the Bryston's onboard DAC and the one
in the GCD and could hear no difference - none. We shall see if the
new transport makes a difference in that regard.
Meanwhile, I shall hold on the the Bryston. As I have no local repair
facility, I shall take it to one in Portland I trust when next I am over
that way. The Bryston is such a lovely piece of electronics that I just
hate to trash it or let it sit forlornly on a shelf somewhere not doing
it's intended job. It served me well for 11 years. I am for some reason
emotionally attached to it.
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein
Nt
I've used mine since November 2018. Sounds good with my Counterpoint DAC, I've played it a lot since then with no issues so far.
There's a CXC II now. Haven't heard it. I've also read great things about Audiolab's CD transport.
Best regards, Ralph
n/t
That's how my Sony SCD1 left my life. Bummer!
There was a time when Bryston had a 20 year warranty, not sure if it applied to CD players. Not sure if there is a clause referring to parts availability or how it would apply. Perhaps a discount on a new player?
Philips 1202. If you like the player, confirm this with them. If this part is correct, buy a handful to see you through. I have four replacements for my Lite transport.See link below.
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
Edits: 03/05/21 03/05/21 03/05/21
The drive mechanism I found on a database list the BCD-1 as having a Philips L1210. Not an expert, but linked a fleabay seller:
Whether or not you can observe a thing depends upon the theory you use. It is the theory which decides what can be observed. - Albert Einstein
These CD players are worth the effort. And parts are super cheap now, as it's assumed no one wants them. Stack them up and save them from landfill!
Big J
"... only a very few individuals understand as yet that personal salvation is a contradiction in terms."
It will be written on the drive, take the cover off, take pictures and post them. I have found compatible drives, lasers etc., for what manufacturers say are obsolete. Most are about $30, less for just laser. They are simple with a lot of standardization. In one case I found one, perfect, just needed two wires swapped.
If you replace the laser do you need special set up tools or is it just a swap? I ask regarding a Phillips CDM-9 Pro. My transport works but I would buy a spare laser if they're available and can be replaced easily if need be.
I think the CDM9 Pro has the brushless motor, look for standard CDM9 and then use all of it except the motor and motor interface. You will have better luck doing that, than changing just the laser.
Thanks, I have a few Rotel cd players with the CDM-9 transport. I got them as back ups cause someone told me I could take parts for my P S Audio Lambda.
Edits: 03/05/21
Here is a cheaper option with rca spdif
Cut to razor sounding violins
Audiolab, cambridge and project all have options at $500 or less
And any bluray player could work if you are ok with optical out
Cut to razor sounding violins
As a CD/SACD collector and music lover- I feel your pain.
You must own the 1st generation Bryston cd player? IMO, this company has been around long enough to know better to stock parts.
There latest spinner is an improvement and critical parts are available.
I would consult Bryston and inquire about trading up.
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