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In Reply to: RE: Bryston BCD-3 RedBook CD player posted by Frihed89 on July 17, 2017 at 14:20:41
I wonder how many basic CD players are still sold in the audiophile market.
Too many good DACs out there.
Other suppliers include Audio Research, Yamaha, Tascam, Cambridge Audio, Denon, Marantz and NAD. Depending upon your definition of "basic", the EMM Labs XDS1 CD/SACD player is still available for a mere $25k.
I don't get it either. :)
If any of my modified Philips CDR-935 CD changers were to croak (these designs are over 25 years old), I'd likely try a new CD player.... I still think overall, the best sound from any form of digital media is directly from these 5-inch silver discs. (In spite of age, there is no sign these changers will croak any time soon. The only issue is an occasional "skip", which occurs in one of ten discs.)
But then again, I'd first try to find someone with the tooling to replicate Don Allen's modifications of these Philips 935 changers. Rarely is there a component I'd own for life, but these modified Philips changers are amongst that elite few. Over the past five years, I have not even been in the market to purchase any home digital audio playback source. (I will soon be posting a video check for the new Huawei P10 Plus smart phone, played from audio sourced from one of these CD changers. The audio capture capability of these phone cameras recording video is amazing.)
-The belief that the best way to source 1s and 0s is to scan pits and flats on a reflective disc with the laser, despite the overwhelming evidence to the contrary, is a belief that will not completely die out until the people who believe it do.
-Any sort of hiccup rate in your source(skipping, pausing, mistracking, etc.) of 10% or even 1% for that matter should be a dealbreaker for that source. I would not, didn't when it was a possibility, enjoy my music as much knowing that at any random point my CD player could skip. I also like to have endless hours melt away as I listen to error free music that I can control from my phone. It just makes CDs feel like 8 tracks.
.......and $3500 for a CD player!!!!!!?????
There are way too many non CD player options for $3500 or WAY less to even think about spending that kind of money on completely irrelevant technology.
but they don't.
That being said, I almost never use either CD or SACD/CD players anymore.
Sony HAP Z1 is my favorite Digital Player, including some DACs.
CD rips sound great to me.
And NO skipping!
Will the Sony HAP Z1 play 5.6-MHz DSD from a USB drive plugged into its USB port. Will it also play 5.6-MHz DSD when loaded into its internal 1-TB memory. I'm looking for a digital player with that capability. Currently, I'm using my TASCAM DA-3000 DSD recorder as a digital player for my 5.6-MHz DSD transfers of vinyl.
A single glitch on 1 out of 10 CDs is still a pretty high 'glitch rate' IMHO.
Out of thousands of albums streamed from my computer, I can't recall the last time I've had a 'glitch' on a track.
But a similar comparison can be made for vinyl records. I'm very hesitant to buy new records because of poor quality. In my experience it's really a crap shoot with higher than 1 out 10 being defective in some way.
"Out of thousands of albums streamed from my computer, I can't recall the last time I've had a 'glitch' on a track."
I'd be shocked if you ever get one..... Music played off a computer hard drive should never "skip".... It's far more robust than any CD player, reading data off a hard drive or SSD. By several orders of magnitude. (If computer data off the hard drive had a read-error rate of a CD player, it would rarely make it past boot-up.)
But I personally prefer the sound of a good dedicated CD player over any computer-based audio. And by a wide margin. To where the rare skipping is a non-issue with me.
I was kinda thinking the same thing. 10% is well beyond the point of indicating something needs fixed or replaced.
On the other hand, it is really tough these days to buy new vinyl records that don't have a flaw of some sort in it. Well over 10% are unacceptable in my experience.
I've only had a few issues buying new vinyl,(warps in my case) but you're probably buying new vinyl in greater volume than me. FWIW, buying used vinyl on Discogs has been a fairly positive experience. Also buying used vinyl on my yearly trip to Chicago to visit my son has been positive as well. Both shops I visit( Dusty Groove, Reckless Records) give pretty accurate condition ratings on their used vinyl.
Other than this model and 3-4 Audio Note CD players, I don't know of any, but I haven't looked that hard.
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