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I've been following pricing from various sources for the new Oppo UDP-205 disk player since it hit the market not long ago. It is available direct from Oppo for $1299 + shipping. Curiously, I've seen it advertised in several places including here on AA Trader, eBay, A'gon, HiFi Shark, etc for $1350 - $1600 as "mint used" or "open box". I'm not a dealer but have bought and sold a considerable amount of audio equipment over the last 30 years. In my view of the world, once the factory seal is broken, the item is used. Rule of thumb is used equipment sells for roughly 50% off list and open box/demo equipment from an authorized dealer is 20% - 30% or better off list (with full mfg warranty). Of course these are not universal truths - everything is negotiable based on factors such as rarity, high-demand, transferrable warranty, etc. And anyone is entitled to get whatever the market will pay for their merch, I get all that. But maybe someone can help me understand the logic: $1299 factory direct with 30 day return guarantee and 2 year mfg warranty vs. $1395 as a second buyer with no warranty. Why?
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
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Some products listed at higher than original pricing is for buyers who are in countries where there is no way to purchase it, or it would be at an even higher price anyway if purchased from the official distributor or an authorized dealer.
-mt
Cerebrate!
Throw out a line and see if you get a bite...
I've seen ads on eBay about various components where after looking at the asking price, my reaction was "good luck"! Some of those ads hang out there for months on end. :)
nt
Possibly, they tend to go for the price of the unit plus the price of the multi-region hardware. However, since that is a big selling point, it should be mentioned in the ad.
Jack
Nt
> But maybe someone can help me understand the logic: $1299 factory direct with 30 day return guarantee and
> 2 year mfg warranty vs. $1395 as a second buyer with no warranty. Why?
The answer is simple. The original buyer would like to make a profit on his purchase.
Perhaps you should take a course in economics because that is straight forward simple economics.
Of course, it's always possible that there will never be a second buyer because most of us would prefer to buy factory direct and pay less. That's also straight forward simple economics. ;-)
Good luck,
John Elison
Hey John, thanks for responding. One of us needs a course in economics, but I'm not sure it is me. I asked a dumb question; you gave a dumb answer. I'll take the blame.
Let me try to be more specific: Given that there is standard price for a desirable product readily available on the market, why would a seller choose to advertise their substandard product for a higher price?
Is the assumption is that buyers will not bother do do the research to find the lowest price? Do the sellers have insider knowledge that 1) the mfg does not have capacity to meet demand or 2) the mfg intends to increase the price?
I respect your experience and would like to know your thoughts.
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
Okay! I was just being silly because I thought you were being silly.
There are people on eBay that try to sell things for more than they're worth all the time. The sad thing is that there are probably people who don't know the difference and buy them. In other words, some people are stupid and others are dishonest cheaters who take advantage of stupid people. It's been that way as long as I can remember and I suspect that's what's happening with the new Oppo UDP-205. I'm not aware of anything else going on.
I own the older BDP-105D and I bought it factory direct for $1299 plus shipping. It is the heart of my audio/video system . I will probably buy the new UDP-205 one of these days when I buy a 4k HDTV. Currently, I still have the older 1080p HDTV.
Good luck,
John Elison
Thanks for the insight and let me offer an apology: I get a bit defensive on this forum because I've found over the years that subtlety frequently goes up in flames here. Unfortunately.
. . . in theory, practice and theory are the same; in practice, they are different . . .
Seems folks are always missing the joke asect, and then commentingas if the words were serious.
Why does English not have a joke/sarcasm punctuation mark?
Do ANY written languages have one? Just curious?
And you got an appropriate answer.
Tilting at Ebay and the like is more than pointless.
Humans are Not overly impressive. Small news there
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