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I'm looking at a second hand Sony SCD222ES in a local hi-fi shop. As usual, you read the user reviews and half the world thinks it's smooth and wonderful and the other half calls it bright and thin. If you've heard this player, what is your impression? I'd like to get some more insight before I purchase it. I don't have the opportunity to audition it at home first. I'm looking for something with a smooth and warm sound with good resolution. I will be using it for redbook cd playback.
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Sound was fine, not as good as my scd 1, but great when we had company and I did not want to jump up every 45 minutes to change the cd. Not great, but good with both sacd and cd.
Mine died after a few years - change would not work. Told I could not get it fixed by local store - may have been wrong, but too much hassle to ship back and spend $150+ on the hassle. Mechanics were not good.
If you get it, get it cheap and hope it does not die.
What did you decide Blue?
It thought it was a good redbook cd player. Fairly smooth and detailed, sounded good with acoustic instrumental music, and definitely not bright. Sound was neutral overall. It was excellent with SACD. I thought it was better than a similarly priced NAD player on redbook. Only problem with the SCD222ES is the clanky changer that would somtimes get stuck and made really loud noises when changing cd's.
5 carousel CD changers go bad quicker! My Philips changer went bad after 2 years!
The sound of the Sony depends also on the recording quality. On a good SACD it would be fine, I think.
I wouldn't pay more than $50.
Good luck
It may not be the changer per se. I avoid all Philips electronics. That's easy to do now since they dropped all consumer electronics.Their rear projection TVs had almost a 100% failure rate, as did their first generation flat screens and then there's their SACD 1000's !!! Yikes !!!!!!!!
Edits: 09/16/14
It was like $249 new, on sale, long-long time ago.
After several months, I added an old used Proceed DAP DAC, and that significantly improved sound quality. Then, after less than half a year, I bought old used Proceed transport (CDT) - and that significantly improved the sound, again.
Proceed pieces were not that great, either, and all that stuff is long gone - but Sony was the first to go.
"Significantly improved sound quality". That could mean anything. Could you be more specific? I appreciate your reply.
However, some of the most obvious things are:
- more dimensional sound, with all 3 dimansions of the soundstage getting larger;
- higher resolution, but at the same time smoother;
- stronger bass.
Blue-
is this primarily a SACD player. I would skip it (no pun) and buy a more dedicated red-book cd player to fit your needs. I love the Sony ES sound.
There are a plethora of great used players out there. Keep me posted on the one you purchase.
I would be using it as primarily a redbook player, yes. If you're saying that this is not a good redbook player, I would appreciate a description of why this is the case beyond just stating that it's good or bad, which is sort of meaningless. Ever read a detailed review wherein the only commentary is something like "It's a gorgeous player" or "It destroyed player X", etc? It's really frustrating. Reviews like that are meaningless, more so than the average review at least, and this is why I started this thread. Also, what are the better redbook players you are referring to in this price range? Thanks
Any CD/SACD player is so dependent on what it plays INTO that I would find it impossible to describe its sound objectively. Like others, I could tell you whether it sounds "right" or better than another player with which I have immediate experience in my own system, but that's about all.
For instance, I've had a variety of Sony SACD/CD players, topped by the $3K (MSRP) XA-777ES, and thought they all sounded like hell on CDs. Others, with different systems, rooms and priorities, loved them.
It also depends on what is being played. In some cases, errors in a DAC may compensate for errors in a recording producing favorable results. Playing a different recording may produce unfavorable results.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
The 555ES was the top player in this particular series. These can be readily found on the used market if this is the styled player in which you search.
I can suggest several excellent to outstanding RBCD players-what is your budget (low end to upper limit)?
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