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In Reply to: RE: Dr. Diamond vs high rez not better than CD posted by Dave Pogue on July 05, 2012 at 06:25:35
"LPs produced from digital masters caused "microcracks" in turntable spindles"
Very weird claim. Did he say sometime later that this claim was not right?
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Yes, I'd say it was pretty weird. Amazingly, some of the audio mags took it seriously, or seemed to. The claim was Ms. Reilly's; Diamond supported it. Whether he ever recanted or apologized, I don't know.
He, of self proclaimed immaculate objectivity (ha, ha, ha!) thought that it proved all he needed to be proved.
He went for the cracked spindle thing and suggested we not play our TELARC lps.
I took it seriously for about five minutes and then put on one of those evil disks.
Not to discourage inquiry into what works and what doesn't for enjoying music in the home but one must learn to edit the silliest parts of your "thinking".
At the time I had a NORDIC TRACK in my listening room and I tried my same workout with both "pure" analogue playing and digitally recorded (all was on LP at this time) - I found I had no difference in my workouts.
It was most effective in getting the crazy's (US) to pay attention to them.
Nor were "workouts" what Diamond was discussing. His research in Applied Kinesiology was based (inter alia) on the deltoid response. It's a simple test and he found that not only CDs but sugar, fluorescent lights, some kinds of music etc. etc. will depress this response. (Wouldn't be surprised if some kinds of people will too!)
I recommend his three slim volumes in The Life Energy in Music series.
P.A.
"(Wouldn't be surprised if some kinds of people will too!)"
As you surmised, certain people provide positive and other negative contributions. I have experienced this effect while climbing mountains with different people. Certain places tend to accumulate positive and negative characteristics, and these can be influenced by positive and negative music.
The reference provids the outline of a conceptual framework to account for these and similar observations.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
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Perhaps you could point us to those? (I'm guessing not, lol.) For a fact I can name four that spurned the whole idea.
P.A.
All I can come up with is either Stereophile or TAS, which took her seriously enough to bother debunking her. I'd look it up but haven't yet perfected my sneer. Takes time :-)
"All I can come up with is either Stereophile or TAS, which took her seriously enough to bother debunking her"
Debunking an idea does not imply that the idea was taken seriously. There are other reasons that one might attempt a debunk. The most obvious is curiousity. Even here, being curious need not imply initial doubt as to validity. It may be curiosity regarding how one would go about demonstrating the idea to be false, i.e. the idea represents a logical puzzle that one believes will be a fun mental exercise to solve. Also, one must not confuse the message with the messenger.
Yet another reason for debunking an idea is to separate sheep from goats, i.e. identify the people who will continue to believe in the idea even after the debunking. (One sees this often in matters of audiophilia, i.e. one can separate rational subjectivists from audiophools.) This is an ongoing process by which one can improve one's reasoning and powers of persuasion. In other words, this is a useful form of play.
Tony Lauck
"Diversity is the law of nature; no two entities in this universe are uniform." - P.R. Sarkar
"For a fact I can name four that spurned the whole idea."
The idea that digitally mastered LP can cause micro-cracks in the turntable spindle,
or the idea that digitally mastered LP can have negative effect on human?
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> > Amazingly, some of the audio mags took it seriously, or seemed to...
Unfortunately, the writers for some high-end mags & web sites seem to live in utter fear that they'll miss out on the latest miraculous audio discovery. That leaves them susceptible to spurious claims and they'll go to great lengths to adopt some scientific-sounding theory that seems to make it all possible.
I continue to find it ironic that the subjective types are the most likely to reject subjective influences as an explanation.
Wonder how long it'll be before we find the latest round of audio improvements based on the Higgs Boson particle....
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