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In Reply to: RE: And people here give a flying... posted by Ivan303 on May 30, 2017 at 09:04:02
Because without mainstream acceptance you get no significant amount of music to buy. A few thousand titles is not much to choose from and no reason to accept a new format no matter how many audiophiles tout its superiority.
I listen to music not formats.
Not only are a few thousand titles not enough, but when introducing a new, supposedly superior format, the MOST POPULAR recorded artists, and the most familiar recordings must be prioritized and optimized for that new format.
and no reason to accept a new format no matter how many audiophiles tout its superiority."
A few thousand titles is more than enough for me to 'accept a new format' if it's a few thousand titles I have an interest in hearing. Both DVD-A and SACD are now an available format on most decent sounding silver disk spinners, so what's the gripe? If you don't like the format, don't buy it.
Likely have a few thousand LPs and a few thousand CDs but not more than 100 or so SACDs and maybe 15-20 DVD-A, so a few thousand new titles in a new format is fine for me IF I AM INTERESTED IN THE MUSIC.
And it's fine with me if I'm not.
I have no intention of buying an MQA enabled DAC, or even one which is DSD capable. I'm happy with my two Audio-GD PCM1704 based multibit DACs.
But just because I'm an old stick-in-the-mud listening to ancient technology doesn't mean others can't or shouldn't enjoy new formats.
Other than an odd DG or DECCA release, most of the music I listen to is NOT from main-stream labels anyway.
I have no idea how NAXOS or BIS or Chandos or Channel Classics stays in business, but somehow they do.
That said, if Beyoncé wants to release her latest recording on SACD, I think that's great. But I won't be buying it or downloading the DSD file.
Cool no problem here.
But that was not your question. You asked why would anyone(audiophiles) care about the mainstream acceptance or something along that line. I just gave you an answer extremely limited choice of music. That is a BIG reason why we should care. Just because some audiophiles take the jump and find enough titles to satisfy their whim does not make a success.
Formats come and go for one reason lack of mainstream acceptance. If the mainstream does not accept a format it will not survive. It is just that simple.
Doubtful MQA will survive. Its' claims are dubious at best, we have heard it all before, and the mainstream could not care less about MQA.
Some say it died at birth, that would be 1999 (last century), but new SACDs are issued every day.
ImportCD lists over 5,000 SACDs in their current catalog with 50+ issued in the last few weeks or available for pre-order.
Not all great, but I can't keep up with all of them and I'm just interested in classical.
How has the SACD managed to survive this long without 'mainstream' acceptance?
Yes, downloads will obsolete the spinning silver disk in all of its forms, including DVD and BluRay, eventually.
In the mean time Marantz just introduced a $7000 SACD player. OK, not for the 'mainstream' market, but still, not to bad for DOA technology.
5,000+ SACD titles? That is a joke. Basically nothing.
SACD is a niche audiophile product that was/is a complete and total failure. HDCD, DVD-A, DSD are also flops.
Only audiophiles would claim failures like this are a success. That does not mean a company cannot make money satisfying the niche audiophile market, SACD as an example, but that is a not a success.
When 1,000,000+ titles are available one can consider it a success. MP3 downloads are a smashing success. Why? Mainstream acceptance. Of course audiophiles will be running for the hills because of sound quality but there is a HUGE amount of music available for MP3 download.
Chicken and egg kind of situation. Audiophiles will ohh and ahh over the latest thing but sit on the fence waiting for mainstream acceptance waiting for a large amount of available music. Of course it never happens because the mainstream could not care less about audiophile desires or silly new formats. And then the stubborn audiophile will never admit is was a flop because SACD.com just released 20 new titles this year!
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