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In Reply to: RE: With every post posted by E-Stat on April 21, 2017 at 05:58:55
You said "multi-radials have been out for 50 years". But the majority don't have one. So it's VERY relevant -esp when discussing performance.
And it wasn't Sanders that said "response varies drastically", my other link did !!
You're dead wrong on 192kbs. Chat rooms are loaded with opinions *right in line* with mine and Sanders.
Your cable study is ignored because it's a red herring. Trying to get off topic. The measured performance of LP, not cables, is what scares the hell out of me.
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and the technology.
And it wasn't Sanders that said "response varies drastically", my other link did !!
Fair enough. Let's look at the entirety of the assumptions made and the conclusions.
the frequency response varies drastically across the record, with much better response on the outer diameter (the start of the recording) than on the inner diameter (end of the recording)
That doesn't occur with linear arms and the amount necessarily varies depending upon the arm length and design. What is the assumed length?
Obviously, one will never know. Uninformed speculation applied to all designs by Norbert Schuch who is not a recording industry professional. Fail.
A couple of other things worth noting: if you have a stylus with a finer tip, you will get lower distortion at the expense of much higher pressure between the stylus and the record;
Now, we find that he assumes we're using a crude stylus shape. It's really easy to burn Straw Men, isn't it?
Chat rooms are loaded with opinions *right in line* with mine and Sanders.
I am in no way challenging your inability to hear what others do. :)
..."this doesn't occur (with this)", "if we use (that)". You're proving my point, LP is a mess. Improve one thing and harm another.
Common styli as noted.
this doesn't occur (with this)", "if we use (that)".
Aka, what is commonly used by experienced vinyl enthusiasts which you clearly are not.
We're not talking about one of these. :)
Common styli as noted
You had to look that up?
I've been using turntables for fifty years and have owned examples of every type. The difference being that I actually understand what all of that means. :)
So by your logic that means the CD format suffers from low dynamic range. Objective proof that vinyl is objectively superior. Well reasoned. Glad you finally saw the light of day on this subject.
Classical labels have a LOT MORE than that!!But throw out the 'range' for a second, it's the sound quality of LP that scares me. This piece says CD can be 'compressed', but no audiophile label commits this crime.
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The majority of CDs are not classical. By your logic that can't be ignored so CD suffers from poor dynamic range. "Common *CD* as noted." Thank you for making my point
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If you're an audiophile, then you don't *care* about most CDs. Audiophile labels like Hyperion and Naxos have more dynamic range than LP, that is pure-fact.
There are thousands of CDs like this, 'classics today' (online) is a good place to start. You can get JRiver software to show the dynamic range.
This doesn't have to be hard (or confusing). It's guys like you and E-Stat that *make it* that way, with ad hominem attacks and red herrings. 'Ralph' completes the picture with pyscho-babble.
Like Jon Valin and Michael Fremer, trying to trick people into thinking that digital is flawed and LP is better.
"But the majority" aren't audiophiles. "So it's (common CDs) VERY relevant -esp when discussing performance." and common CDs have very limited dynamic range. So CDs perform poorly. LPs are superior. Your logic. Thank you for conceding the point
First, let's see the evidence that the "majority of CDs have 5db of dynamic range". It should count all releases since 1982.But it doesn't matter anyway -as audiophiles, we have a choice of many thousands of albums with dynamic range of 70 to 90db.
Of course, you won't talk about LPs problems, but it's all over the internet. Here's another piece.
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prove Im wrong.
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