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In Reply to: RE: They're different experiences.. posted by J. Phelan on April 20, 2017 at 14:35:25
If we are actually talking about sound quality and looking to the market as any kind of indicator then you obviously have to look to the audiophile market. And when you do the indicators are quite clear. Vinyl dominates that market. Personally I don't look to market trends as meaningful evidence of quality but if one wants to make that argument vinyl is the clear winner.
LP is all but gone from high-end audio. It's hard to find reviewers who prefer it to digital. I go to them because it's the best evidence we have. We obviously can't know every consumer's system.
But even here, look around, go to your audio societies, etc. -it's all digital.
Reviewer Jim Austin said it best: it's been 'more than decade' since LP left (high end) as a reference. Even Art Dudley and Herb Reichert, two of the remaining 'vinyl-first' people, have been reviewing a LOT of digital.
In the past 2 years -so much that they seem to be listening to digital full-time, due to constantly-new samples coming in. Why are they doing this if digital is not their beat ?
Reviewer Jim Austin said it best: it's been 'more than decade' since LP left (high end) as a reference.
Kindly post a link to that quote. You've clearly demonstrated in this thread alone a decided inability to read and understand content.
Does he know fellow reviewer Mikey Fremer? :)
While I'm not a Valin fan, he continues to update Harry Pearson's "Super LP" list. You can find it here . Jacob Heilbrunn continues to review record playing gear and even when reviewing stuff like Odin 2, he references his vinyl library.
As a long term friend of HP, I can tell you that he regularly spun vinyl on the Clearaudio until the end.
No, the burden of *proof* is upon you to support your silly assertion (referencing only a handful of names) if you want to be taken seriously.
You can read Jim's thoughts on a thread (I started) called 'Reviewers with LP -how many are there' ? For Jim, LP is now second-choice. The 'decade ago' thing was the decline of LP, in high-end audio, in his words.
If you do the work, let me know how many reviewers use LP as a primary source. I found 10 (and even listed them). But there are 130, maybe 150 U.S. reviewers ! Some don't review much, so it's hard to get an exact number.
And even this could be off -vinyl lovers Dudley and Reichert are reviewing a *lot* of digital these days. When it's not even their beat to do so.
You can read J.m's thoughts on a thread (I started) called 'Reviewers with LP -how many are there' ?
I followed the thread and perhaps I missed it, but I find no link to his printed words.
Kindly link them again. Surely that should be an easy task.
...can't help you there !!
Let's review your claim from this post:
"Reviewer J.m Austin said it best: it's been 'more than decade' since LP left (high end) as a reference."
There is a search engine which provides the ability to locate any text sequence. Try it for yourself. Paste the text "more than a decade" into the "exact phrase" dialog and see what you find.
Are you really that delusional?
For those who are able to count both their fingers and their toes, here is the *alleged* post.
This is what you actually find:
"I do not find one technology innately, sonically superior to the other; excellent music in excellent sound is available in analog and digital form. "
It is indeed impossible to quote text that no one has ever written.
Perhaps you should lay off the recreational drugs for a while. :)
So you couldn't find it but NOW you can....
Jim was disagreeing with those who say "LP is superior". Then said "things have changed" (twice !). Read between the lines.
that you are delusional, free from the boundaries of facts and reality...
"LP is all but gone from high-end audio." Wrong
"It's hard to find reviewers who prefer it to digital." Wrong
"I go to them because it's the best evidence we have." Wrong
So once again you got it all wrong. Next you will ask me to prove it and I will and then you will try to spin it away or ignore it. Do some homework for a change and try to get some facts right. Your parade of objectively wrong assertions is getting boring.
Alright big guy prove it.
do your own homework for a change. If nothing else you are predictable. can't help yourself?
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