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In Reply to: RE: Audio critics should publish their hearing tests posted by triamp on March 21, 2017 at 16:39:14
...you will see this subject has been raised and shot down numerous times before.
Critical listening is about training to see, if you will, the various trees in the forest.
Not just your ability to see the top of the forest.
Whatever hearing acuity curve you have is identical for listening to live music and for listening to recorded music at home.
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"Whatever hearing acuity curve you have is identical for listening to live music and for listening to recorded music at home."
That's about the silliest rationalization I've ever stumbled upon. How can a critic (or any other listener) meaningfully compare the performance of amplifier 'X' to amplifier 'Z', if they can't adequately hear the full frequency range output of the 2 amps, as is heard by a normal, healthy human ear?
With lenses, what's the bottom line that you can read on a standard eye chart. Inadequate performance and one's driver's licence is suspended (for your own safety as well as those with who you share the road). Ditto one's audio critic license.
Since loss of high frequencies with age (presbycusis) is normal, how old is a normal healthy human reader?And while we are at it, spectral sensitivity is only one of several hearing attributes.
Edits: 03/23/17
...the biggest change in hearing acuity is the loss of high frequencies as we age.
As JA has pointed out, he refrains from discussing the very high frequencies.
How much musical information occurs above 12kHz or even 10kHz? As you can see from the chart, probably 90% of the music is in the midrange (between 100Hz and 8kHz).
Regardless of extended HF hearing above the most important aspect of audio reviewing is the reviewer's critical listening skills.
Even with 20/20 vision, many can't see the forest for the trees.
Strange chart , no midbass ! Midrange at 240 hz ! Subbass at @60 hz ....
Uhhh Huh ...
...about musical instruments, obviously not written by audiophiles.
Nice chart. Attribution?
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> Nice chart. Attribution?>
The internet.
Momentarily disregarding charts and statistics, I know from experience how the value of the resistor for the Tympani IV-A tweeter has changed over the last 25 years (in the same listening room/position). To derive *any* pleasure at all in listening to my 'test' standard CDs, I have NO resistor in place. ~30 years ago I started out by using Magnepan's supplied 2.5 ohm resistor. If I used that resistor today, my listening pleasure would be zilch. (Needless to add, I don't merely listen for the higher frequencies as heard by my dog.)
> > .you will see this subject has been raised and shot down numerous times before.
Critical listening is about training to see, if you will, the various trees in the forest.
Not just your ability to see the top of the forest.
Whatever hearing acuity curve you have is identical for listening to live music and for listening to recorded music at home. < <
So, a reviewer who can't hear much above 10,000 Hz is perfectly qualified to make sage pronouncements about the top octave performance of a given speaker / amplifier / DAC /phono setup?
THat's not rational.
... what difference does THAT make to you?
'Course that's way better than I can do at 87, but then I couldn't care less what a reviewer's hearing is, since the midrange is pretty much all that matters, as you'll find out when you mature :-)
Most, if not all, reviewers I respect can hear anything I need to hear. Training does the rest.
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... in the Boxster.
I did find it. Thanks for caring.
I'd love to watch any 87 year old climb into and out of a Boxster, never mind driving it.
Sounds kinda boring to me
Haven't had a car since I moved to NYC in '71, but love the looks of that Porsche model. Presume the driving feel of it is great. Hope I'm as young at heart as you are if I make it to 87!
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