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In Reply to: RE: Art Dudley: The Goodness of Your Heart: A Tragedy in One Act posted by Isaak J. Garvey on May 18, 2016 at 08:05:59
After all the discussion about the thread have gone through, we should ask ourselves would we be better off if this article was not published? I don't think so. I want to listen from concrete admission from industry player rather from through the grapevine.
If continuous animosity shown towards Stereophile, it has become more like shooting at the messenger. Regardless what you think Stereophile's motive and moral high ground they are taking, they have provided explanation and stated their position in this issue. Insist that Stereophile or PS to name names is overstepping your boundary and they are not stupid and obliged to do so. Why should they go through any sue on your behalf? That is my opinion.
Well, just about every reviewer not working for Stereophile would be!
"Insist that Stereophile or PS to name names is overstepping your boundary and they are not stupid and obliged to do so."
What 'boundary' would that be? Without names Art's piece is merely innuendo that taints everyone in the business EXCEPT Stereophile and PS Audio.
That said IMNSHO, naming of names at this juncture would just make things worse. Art's piece should never have seen the light of day. It's that simple.
> Well, just about every reviewer not working for Stereophile would be!
Perhaps I am too hard-nosed, but I don't feel any responsibility for
publications other than my own and for the writers for those publications.
We all hang out our shingles and offer readers what we feel relevant
and important and should be judged accordingly.
As I posted elsewhere in this thread, readers should be skeptical of _all_
publications that are supported by advertising. Look at how many reviews
are of products from non-advertisers. Look for adverts from a first-time
advertiser in an issue with a positive review of their product, especially
if that advert includes text from the review. Look for reviews of products
that don't actually have distribution in the publication's country,
especially if that product is featured on the cover and is supported by
Read reviews to discover things you wouldn't have suspected: many reviews
published by mainstream webzines are actually based on press releases,
not on actual experience of the product, something the late J. Gordon
Holt used to call "reviewed in the box." And look to see who sells the
ads. If the editor is also responsible for selling ads, then who can tell
if that will affect his judgments or not? In print, we have the "Chinese
Wall" between editorial and advertising; on-line, that seems to be the
exception rather than the rule.
All I am asking is that if you are skeptical of Stereophile, then apply
the same skepticism to everyone. Judge us all by the same standard.
One of the reasons for this board, if listen closely, was that Stereophile reviews were being criticized/discussed ad nauseum on many of the 'gear' focused boards.
It was decided best to contain the damage to one forum and this one would be it.
Here is the conclusion I have arrived at.
Bill from PS Audio has got a big mouth. He should have kept his little
story private, instead of trying to impress Art Dudley with it. He should have kept his business to himself, and Art Dudley had no business making it our business.
That is what I think.
I could have saved a few keystrokes by just posting a "Yep!.
Here is a yep...
If Art Dudley wants to gossip like a bored house wife in public about industry players...
...then so can everyone here. Period.
Why they publish pieces outside of their expertise, music and audio, is beyond me.
He has been in the business since at least the 1980s as a reviewer and also as an owner of his own audio magazine. So commenting on the ins and outs of the audio reviewing business is well within his area of expertise.
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