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In Reply to: E-Stat, you need to read Pat's tag line posted by Bruce from DC on April 28, 2006 at 05:52:28:

He seems to think that if he can catch me in a careless statement then that will prove that the differences between various interconnects, cables and such can normally be expected to be audible. He's just being silly.
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Re: "'being silly" - Bruce from DC 08:30:21 04/28/06 (1)
I don't think so, Pat.
If a person believes that wires (interconnects) have no sonic effect on reproduction, then refering to a "neutral interconnect" is a redundancy. By definition, they are all neutral.
So, which is it: a defect in your writing or a defect in your thinking?
;-0 [trip!]
BTW, if you personally want to test this proposition, buy yourself a pair of DH Labs Bl-1 interconnects and a pair of Goertz Micropurl AG interconnects. They're both cheap, especially if you buy 1/2 meter length. It shouldn't be too difficult for you to set up at least an SBT of them. I make that suggestion in all seriousness because, until I replaced the DH Labs with the Goertz IC's I didn't think interconnects made any difference. Of course, the components I was connecting were different from the components you are using, so it still may not work. FWIW, the electrical characteristics of the two ICs are quite different. The Goertz wires are high capacitance, low inductance; and the DH Labs are higher inductance and probably relatively lower capacitance because of the differences in design.
- Re: "'being silly" - Pat D 14:18:58 04/28/06 (0)
  Where have I said that every interconnect has no effect on the signal, let alone no audible effect? Anything can be built badly, but I have no reason whatever to think mine are or that selling price has much to do with it.
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Or, choice B - E-Stat 07:54:51 04/28/06 (8)
simply trying to understand how you determined that a given cable is neutral or not.
Evidently, you don't. You just say you like "neutral" cables.
rw
- Apparently you missed the most important lecture during ... - bjh 08:03:17 04/28/06 (7)
  your formal Philosophy education, i.e. you must have been away the day they viewed The Matrix. Had you not, you would be perfectly aware ...
  "There is no B."
  - Where did I assert my interconnects are neutral? - Pat D 14:21:58 04/28/06 (6)
    My statement was an 'if-then' type statement. But you have given me no reason to suspect they are not audibly neutral. You apparently have no reasons for doing so.
    
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    - Ah ha --- so your interconnects are NOT neutral? - Richard BassNut Greene 07:09:06 05/03/06 (5)
      That's equivalent to throwing a horse blanket over your speakers.
      Barry Manilow could sound like Frank Sinatra.
      Frank Sinatra could sound like Tony Bennett.
      k. d. lang could sound like Tiny Tim.
      Sell all your audio equipment immediately and buy a Bose clock radio.
      - My dear Nut... - kerr 07:26:28 05/03/06 (4)
        
        In Reply to: Ah ha --- so your interconnects are NOT neutral? posted by Richard BassNut Greene on May 3, 2006 at 07:09:06:
        
        k.d lang sounds like Tiny Tim on ANY system.
        
        k. d. lang has one of the best female voices in pop music -- although may sound like "Tiny Tim on YOUR system - Richard BassNut Greene 07:50:29 05/03/06 (3)
        
        In Reply to: My dear Nut... posted by kerr on May 3, 2006 at 07:26:28:
        
        MY stereo is better than YOUR stereo.
        
        She does - kerr 08:02:17 05/03/06 (2)
        
        In Reply to: k. d. lang has one of the best female voices in pop music -- although may sound like "Tiny Tim on YOUR system posted by Richard BassNut Greene on May 3, 2006 at 07:50:29:
        
        But really only by Annoyance Factor, not timbre or tone.
        HAF = High Annoyance Factor
        Tiny Tim - HAF
        k.d lang - HAF
        Your posts - HAF :)
        Sorry... I'd better get back to my washroom attendant duties... even numbered stalls.
        
        That was a very amusing post -- your ghostwriter is ? - Richard BassNut Greene 08:38:53 05/03/06 (1)
        
        In Reply to: She does posted by kerr on May 3, 2006 at 08:02:17:
        
        I've seen k. d. three times live.
        The Ingenue tour in the early 1990's showed me the best vocalist I've ever heard live (even compared with Ella Fitzgerald and Sarah Vaughan live, although well after their prime years). That was her peak and the slide down to mediocre songs, and too many slow ballads, has been steep since then.
        The last concert a few years ago can be described as "if one slow ballad is good, then five in a row are better". Better for falling asleep in the audience perhaps, which I almost did in spite of the fact the treble was the brightest I've ever heard at a concert (we were in the middle of the auditorium) so we had to use earplugs even though the overall SPL was unusually reasonable.
        
        You of all people should be able to answer that! - kerr 08:53:54 05/03/06 (0)
        
        In Reply to: That was a very amusing post -- your ghostwriter is ? posted by Richard BassNut Greene on May 3, 2006 at 08:38:53:
        
        YOU write them just so you can have the joy of refuting them. :)
        I don't like kd lang, you don't like Audioquest cables (or anything over 50 cents a foot, apparently) - there's no accounting for taste!

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