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In Reply to: RE: The audibility of pitch correction and other DSP recording fixes posted by Analog Scott on August 31, 2021 at 08:49:43
. . . of producing a modern recording. Certainly, I've been amazed at how a recording of my own playing sometimes has been "transformed" (especially in terms of tone and balance among the different registers) by a given engineer making the recording. There was one particular instance where I had to play on some "bar room" upright, and when the recording was played back, I couldn't believe it: the piano sounded like a concert grand!
So I certainly believe you. As for pitch however, I've talked to other engineers who told me that autotune would not work on classical recordings, because, unlike pop recordings, the tracks are not isolated and there is "spillover" from the other instruments or voices involved. So I'm truly wondering how they correct for the pitch of a given instrument without having that instrument on an isolated track.
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they are isolated to a large degree with the multimiking. I think the real trick though is another form of DSP. At Disney Hall I got to meet and talk to the newest in house recording engineer. I asked him about audience noise. He said that they have programs that allow them to isolate audience noise because of the multimiking and erase it like photoshop.
So no, it would not be the same as autotune but I think it can be done. Especially with instruments like pianos which are so rich and thick with overtones.
DSP is the future of high end audio! And this is coming from a guy who loves tubes and vinyl.
By the way Yuja concert tickets at Davies Hall went on sale today. Still somegood seats left.....
By the way Yuja concert tickets at Davies Hall went on sale today.I got tickets for me and my wife. Yuja should be great for the Liszt Concerto 1. My wife isn't serious into classical music, but Yuja makes for a good date concert and we've seen her before. I balked at $189/ticket in the center orchestra section. Last year it was $120 (before cancelled by pandemic). This time I decided on the Side Terrace section above the left side of the stage. It's been a long time since I've sat in the Terrace. Sonics are not ideal, but a good view of action in the orchestra.
But only for the Dude's Mahler 5 so far. Just by chance, I was shredding some documents from 2010 earlier this evening, and I found a SFSO receipt in the same seating location for that year: only $60. I think the orchestra is taking advantage of how many out of sight salaries there are in this area! ;-) - simultaneously with :-(
I will be there...unless work prevents it. bought my tickets this morning
Software that can identify and isolate Wave Forms, even on the Same Track.
I had a Jamey Aebersol Play-Along Jazz Cd that had a 2 bar count-off.
It was on Both Channels.
There was also a soft drum pick-up into the first measure.
Piano was in the middle, drums on one side, bass on the other, no leakage or overlap.
My friend with Pro Tools was able to remove the Countoff without removing the Drums pickups.
I'm pretty sure there were 2 Ballet recordings that were edited that way, but I can't prove it.
But they sounded better than the sessions, and took a Long Time to be released....!
So I would say it's possible, but tedious.
I believe there was also pitch correction here and there.
One was on Reference Recordings, the other by a Free Lance Producer/Engineer,
who BTW had us play only a few bars at a time, then stopped us, editing it together post production.
It was a maddening way to work!
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