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In Reply to: RE: Movie music posted by Moldog on April 19, 2021 at 13:11:22
While you clearly state that this is only your opinion (and I respect that) can you elaborate further ? WHY can't "movie music" also be "classical music" ?It seems to me that classical music has almost always had a programmatic aspect to it. It may not always be created with actual visuals (dance, opera, movie, etc...) in mind but I do think that classical music often inspires visuals in the imaginations of listeners even when actual visuals are not immediately apparent. Hence the visually descriptive names so often given to classical music scores ("Moonlight Sonata", etc...).
Supposedly, Wagner believed that classical music was basically incomplete without accompanying visuals. So he exclusively wrote "opera music" with associated visuals in mind. But one can still (or so I imagine) listen to Wagner's "opera music" without an opera in front of you and still enjoy it as music alone, as long as the music suits you.
I think that "classical music" is actually a kind of "many-splendored thing", don't you ?
Edits: 04/19/21 04/19/21Follow Ups:
Certainly! (Well, maybe except for HIP performances!) ;-)
And, yes, Wagner did believe in the "Gesamtkunstwerk". But even Wagner wrote Siegfried Idyll - which is not very gesamt! ;-)
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. . . here goes:
- Fischer/BFO (Channel Classics)
- Janowski/Berlin RSO (Pentatone)
The Janowski recording (a two-disc set) was formerly available for cheap ($16) at Berkshire Record Outlet, but it looks like Amazon still has copies at their regular price of about $29 (with some resellers cheaper). I suppose it's always possible that Berkshire could get the recording back in stock at some point too. The Fischer recording is also available as a download at DSD Music. I don't know what the situation is on the various streaming sites.
For something more mainstream, there's always the old Bruno Walter recording too, and Solti has a recording of the chamber music setting.
... why do you prefer them ?
Sound quality ? Performance ? The balance between those two things ?
. . . of this particular piece. Therefore, I tend to pick because of sound quality - which is truly fabulous in the two recordings I have pictured. (But remember, I listen in MCh - which usually translates into fabulous 2Ch sound, although not always.) BTW, Fischer, as you might expect, is about a minute faster than Janowski.
In the case of the old Walter performance, the piece IS suited to the con amore style of the conductor's later years. (Remember Toscanini's comment about Walter: "Whenever he comes to something beautiful, he melts.")
And although the Solti recording is of Wagner's original chamber scoring, I like the full orchestra versions better. I just recommended the Solti in case you were interested in the original.
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There is an OLD old (1935) Bruno Walter recording with Vienna Phil (pre-war): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iG1FKfvh4Y
Szell/Cleveland performed it in concert (1969), and the orchestra eventually issued this fine performance in one of its expensive commemorative box sets:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=khdKve9-1aM
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