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Writing in "Slate" magazine, Chris White, assistant professor of music theory at UMass, Amherst, has given us the word: referring to composers by their last names only is "outdated and harmful"! He went on to say, "When we say, 'Tonight, you'll be hearing symphonies by Brahms and Edmond Dede,' we're linguistically treating the former as being on a different plane than the latter, a difference originally created by centuries of systematic prejudice, exclusion, sexism, and racism." Furthermore, White says that the situation needs to be alleviated - people should use the composers' full names, so that "we can focus more on their music rather than on the past cultural practices that elevated straight white men at the expense of everyone else." Yeah, those straight white men like Tchaikovsky and Copland are inhibiting my opportunities as a musician!One wag online declared he was going to signal his virtue starting right now by referring to Mozart only by his baptismal name of "Johannes Chrysostomos Wolfgangus Theophilus Mozart". Sounds good to me - after all, we don't want to trigger anyone so that they need more safe space!. ;-)
Edits: 10/26/20Follow Ups:
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Others? ("and don't say 'masters'!")
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Notice that did not call him White? Brahms, Bach and Beethoven *are* on another level. So are Shaq, Kobe, LeBron, Tiger, Magic, Ali, Dylan, Elvis, Hendrix, Coltrane, Miles and every other artist or athlete or politician or scientist (Einsteinanybody?) or anybody else who has achieved greatness. There is nothing sexist, racist or in any way disrespectful towards others in the achievment of single name recognition. I would like to give Chris White the participation trophy he has earned with this nonsense. I wouldn't want him to feel any less of himself.
. . . if they're just pushing it to see how much they can get away with.
but suffer from extreme tunnel vision
for kids who need encouragement and are not quite ready for the harsh realities of adulthood. Lion cubs play. That play is training for taking down game during adulthood. Lion cubs are not expected to do that out of the gate. There comes a point where kids become adults and have to put their big boy pants on and take some responsibility for their own well being. If someone really feels marginalized by people of great achievement being recognized for that great achievement and attaining status that allows us to know them by a single name that person has deeper problematic issues. Maybe we should go back to the idea that we should be inspired and strive to be like these great achievers rather than striving to diminish their greatness because it hurts our self esteem. Shouldn't we build self esteem by trying to earn it rather than trying to take it away from others who have earned it?
Perhaps this might shed some light. Worth watching...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IQPsKvG6WMI
Nah... just idiots who take themselves and all of the identity politics BS seriously. In other words, children:)
I feel that people who take the arts at University tend to overthink things. They apply some of their readings onto things where it need not be applied.
I recently re-watched on of my favourite horror movies from Sweden called "Let the Right One In" and i watched a review of the film that spent an eternity describing how the director didn't handle gender and transgender issues properly in the context of the vampire genre.
I listened for a bit and thought the director or the the original writer of the novel probably had zero concept of any of these issues while writing the book/screenplay. It is the viewer applying all these external intellectual exercises and reading into things this theoretical knowledge into things.
And when everything becomes a Social Justice issue to fight then the REAL injustices will get lumped into the white noise.
People need to ignore the fluff and get to the real injustices. But hey - Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart sure is awesome to say and read. Wolfy baby. Say his name! Say it or else no Magic Flute for you.
Oops! I just checked and it seems you were the originator of that thread on Central! ;-)
Got to get to full-on professor somehow.
Good Lord:) What's next? Only playing music by composers with proper social scores?
In tonight's concert, Marc-André Hamelin will play the digitigrade quadruped felis catus digital pads Fugue in G minor by Giuseppe Domenico Scarlatti (also known as Domingo or Doménico). The fugue is Ralph Leonard Kirkpatrick chronological catalog number thirty and Alessandro Longo comprehensive catalogue number four hundred ninety-nine. Marc-André Hamelin will play on a Heinrich Engelhard Steinweg (later known as Henry E. Steinway) grand piano measuring eight feet eleven and a half inches.
Enjoy the music.
I wonder if a serial number will be required at some point? ;-)
Of course Steinway did sue Grotrian-Steinweg (run by another branch of the Steinway family - in Yurp) some years ago so that the latter had to change the brand name of their pianos simply to Grotrian (at least in 'murka!).
I don't know the first and second names of all our friends on this forum, so with great reluctance, I'll have to dump you all in the bin marked "Not a great composer".
am I still dumped?
Perhaps we have found out why Christopher* White is an assistant professor?
I hope that the assistant professor is consistent. For example the work by Ottarino Respighi known as the Trittico Botticelliano will henceforth need to be called the Trittico Alessandro Marino di Vanni Filipepiano.
It is difficult to write more on this without infringing forum rules on political content other than to say that absurdities bring legitimate concerns into disrepute. Such a stance also cuts both ways. Edward Kennedy Ellington and William Basie henceforth.
* Surely one should not use a diminutive as it may it be considered outdated and harmful?
"We need less, but better" - Dieter Rams
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Actually not being American I don't now what SJW means. But I hope its fun and I win a hat ;-).
"We need less, but better" - Dieter Rams
What about Joe Green?
Too much is never enough
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I'll try to fit it in tomorrow.
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Thanks for that, me old china :-).
"We need less, but better" - Dieter Rams
Or is Ludwig van Beethoven, or Louis van Beethoven, or Luigi van Beethoven??
I mean, in the current climate, you have to get it exactly right! ;-)
oh really? the hell with YOU Lafayette!
; )
I thought that the whole "Wolfgang Amadeus/Gottlieb Mozart" thing was just the announcer being a pompous jerk or mocking Mozaret et al.
"'Tonight, you'll be hearing symphonies by Brahms and Dede."
Happy now?
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