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In Reply to: RE: It is unfortunate, but classical music continues to take it on the chin for past sins of posted by Todd Krieger on October 06, 2020 at 21:58:54
are you sure? do you understand how odd this post seems?
why were you talking to a 15 year old boy about Beethoven?
'not just minorities'
noted: you only talk to white 15 year old boys about Beethoven
where were his parents? I blame them
see how that works? or does this comment seem odd to you?
be well,
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Burnham The Managerial Revolution (1941) and Francis in Leviathan and his enemies wrote abour it. "On its surface, liberalism promotes a fairer social contract and equal protection for all. But beneath its egalitarian aspect hides its vindictive purpose: to subvert traditional ways of life. Liberalism, is a coordinated project of cultural dispossession."
Btw, that was a good article.
for what cultures?
"American life, Francis warned,(Liberalism) would eventually target every symbol and institution of the older social order. National loyalty, traditional moral codes, the heroes and founders of American culture" in time, all would be subject to an accelerating campaign of ideological revision waged through legislation and the media. And liberalism gained more through this campaign than moral legitimacy. It secured a self-replenishing base of support comprising those it had emancipated from social norms."Leviathan and his enemies
If you of all people don't see 'dirty war' waging by the Left in the U.S. the way it was in the 70's Argentina than I can't help you with your problem.
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when women knew their place! Fossil fuels, forever! 14 hour work days for the poor!
I don't know how much you know about Argentina. What exactly do you mean--- is there some connection between the military dictatorship and its brutal murdering of liberals and what you'd like to see in this country? Did you look at Michigan's latest news and say, "too bad!" Just curious.
In the 70s, leftist politicians in power forgave terrorists and condemned law and order, then the terrorist kept committing acts of terror, then right-wing started hunting them down ...I am done here. This is an inappropriate forum for such a discussion.
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This thread is far more political than anything in Central.
the point of the link provided sailed right over some heads I see
yours not being one of them
regards,
of course 'Liberalism' in the cultural context discussed therein was different from the current context by magnitudes of degrees
it is not equal to 'cancel culture' if that had occurred to you
in any event the attempted point being made sailed far enough overhead no glove could touch it, therefore no error can be assigned
I'll wouldn't go near the subject again with a 10' pole
be well,
"why were you talking to a 15 year old boy about Beethoven?"Why not?? .......
I think music is a big deal in regard to opening up interest in young people..... I believe if it weren't for music, I wouldn't be alive today.......
It's also a peek into the education and cultural environments these people have been subjected to...... It's often depressing........
The discussion was music, he liked rap, he didn't know who Louis Armstrong was...... I was trying to give him ideas to expand his musical interests....... Although I quickly realized he was totally uninterested...... (I don't cling to a topic if the person I'm discussing it with moves on to something else.)
Most younger people (aged 30 and below), if the discussion is music, I mention Beethoven, I've rarely encountered someone in that age bracket who knew this composer beyond the Fifth Symphony...... I've even encountered people in that age bracket who have never heard of him. I also encountered someone who thought he was a literary writer.... Most of them were conditioned to believe that classical music was "old people music" or "rich people music". (I never editorialize what they tell me, there is no "wrong answer" from them. It's purely curiosity on my part.)
I've also encountered young people who claimed the Beatles, Frank Sinatra, and/or Led Zeppelin was/were "racist"......
Edits: 10/07/20
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