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Carlos Kleiber unreleased recordings?

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jimbill

I just received his complete DG box set. In the accompanying booklet it mentions that he refused to release quite a few recordings. Does his estate still have control of them? If not, why wouldn't DG release them now or sell the tapes to another company that would?

I also find it interesting that the box has a blu-ray disc with all the CD's on it, supposedly with better sound.

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"the box has a blu-ray disc with all the CD's on it, supposedly with better sound" - Chris from Lafayette 15:49:07 07/13/20 (6)
Yes - DG and Decca have done that with a number of their recent boxes. The blu-ray does allow for slightly higher sample rates, as well as 24 bits (vs. the 16 bits on CD). Both of the most recent reissues of the DG Karajan Beethoven Symphony sets contained blu-ray options, and, in the case of the 70's set, the blu-ray was remastered for Dolby Atmos, which brought about an almost miraculous improvement in the sound IMHO. I'm one of those who considers the engineering on the Carlos Kleiber discs pretty bad, and it might be interesting to hear what DG has wrought on this latest remastering.
- I find a noticeable difference in the blu-ray - jimbill 11:36:29 07/14/20 (5)
  I've been comparing my DG "Masters" redbook edition vs. the blu-ray. Much more alive, less muddied bass, and better sound stage.
  
  I've always loved his Beethoven Symphonies 5 and 7 performances. But I've always wished for better sound. This might do the trick.
  - Nice to hear - I might partake myself! - Chris from Lafayette 14:09:43 07/14/20 (4)
    I've already bought three incarnations of that C. Kleiber Fifth Symphony - the blu-ray would be the fourth. :-(
    - I had a non-audiophile have a listen - jimbill 22:37:18 07/14/20 (1)
      My 26 year-old daughter did an A-B test.
      
      She preferred the blu-ray both times without knowing what was going on.
      - I think that's probably telling - Chris from Lafayette 00:57:39 07/15/20 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: I had a non-audiophile have a listen posted by jimbill on July 14, 2020 at 22:37:18
        
        And 26-year-olds can no doubt hear better than we can!
        
        Sometimes I'll do blind audiophile experiments with Ms. CfL - even though she claims she's not an audiophile at all, she almost always chooses the more audiophile incarnation as sounding better! (Maybe my body language is giving it away!)
    - Ein Heldenleben - pbarach 15:14:46 07/14/20 (1)
      On Symphonyshare, there was a download available long ago that purported to be a Kleiber/Vienna recording of Ein Heldenleben, complete with a mockup Sony(!) cover, a recording that he declined to release. Who knows if that was real?? It was a pretty good performance.
      - I've been checking Symphonyshare more lately - some amazing gems - Chris from Lafayette 00:52:46 07/15/20 (0)
        
        In Reply to: RE: Ein Heldenleben posted by pbarach on July 14, 2020 at 15:14:46
        
        Like the 1943 broadcast of Rachmaninoff's Concerto No. 2, with the 15-year-old Byron Janis and the NBC Symphony and Frank Black. OTOH, I moved too slowly to download the Popp/Giulini/LAPO Four Last Songs a couple of months ago - sometimes, it seems like those uploads stay up on the server for only a few days.

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