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In Reply to: RE: Janowski's Bruckner 4th with "new and improved OSR, (firmware updates monthly!).... posted by jdaniel@jps.net on June 28, 2020 at 08:57:36
First of all, the "Romantic" is one of Bruckner's "problem" symphonies and there are all these different versions of it floating around which don't line up with one another. So, you finally figure out which version is being used - then you have to figure out whose edition of that version is being used (at least in some cases!). Just to get one's feet on the ground and the general orientation, you have to use that abruckner.com site - or you could be lost (well, depending on the symphony!).
Fortunately for us, both Janowski and Solti are using the 1953 Nowak edition of the 1886 version (aka the 1878/80 version!) - are you still with me? (Not to complicate matters, but there's a 1936 Haas edition of the 1881 version (which is ALSO known as 1878/80 version! As I was just posting about the Hindemith Symphonic Metamorphosis, what a mess! One absolutely NEEDS a crutch like abruckner.com to keep it all straight!)
So. . . to answer your question about the dynamic level at that chorale-like place in the middle of the movement (measure 305 in the Nowak score, if I read you correctly), everybody is marked fortissimo: strings, brass and winds. People can check this for themselves at the imslp site, but here's a screen shot of the beginning of the passage in question:
Interestingly enough, there are no cellos or double basses in this little section - I guess Bruckner thought that trombones and tuba would be enough to hold down the bass line! ;-)
Follow Ups:
Janowski seems to have made his own decision, then. Not the end of the world, but its blazing light is dimmed quite a bit, especially at the high-trumpet summit.
I guess the conductor wanted the ear to focus on the subsidiary material in violas and ww's?
"lang gesogen immer"... pulled long always. Hmmmm.
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