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In Reply to: RE: Violins posted by George6 on June 21, 2020 at 12:42:01
not a good transfer though, both ends of the frequency range seems got cut off quiet a bit, the mastering removed most of the spacial information so the sound if very flat to me.
The Deucalion Projects sounds sharp to me, most of them. Videos from Bnf also tend to have highs emphasis to my ears. In general, I'd say French labels have high percentage of highs emphasis and German labels tend to have lows emphasis. I guess this probably has something to do with the language used.
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That Haitink performance is excellent - thanks for bringing it to my attention.
My system seems to be accurate (the power amp is made in Taiwan), and I think I have discovered why I hear violins as sometimes bright.
When a violinist wants to play loudly, they move their bow toward the bridge. This increases the upper partials (harmonics)loudness in relation to the loudness of the fundamental (the note they are playing), giving a brighter sound.
This can be seen in the Haitink video at exactly the point where I found the strings to bright in the Fischer, at the descending scale passage that moves from violins to celli. If you play this in slow motion you can easily see the violinist of the left move the bow towards the bridge as she plays the passage.
Follow-up to my post with the link to the Haitink Mahler 4:
If you watch the violinist playing _before_ the descending scale you can see how close to the fingerboard the bow is, which gives a warmer sound, and then how she moves the bow towards the bridge to increase the loudness and, inevitably, the upper partials. When the whole violin section does this, it can get strident.
Some audio systems will reproduce these overtones more accurately than others. YouTube does not seem to have the necessary resolution.
We all hear differently, and the same person can hear the same thing at different times and notice new things. Critical listening involves experience and/or training (as in the Harman course) and may not be a good thing if you just want to enjoy the music.
Don't know why I didn't think of the relationship between bow position and overtones earlier; probably need to add some dynamic EQ to the chain.
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