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In Reply to: Re: $500-$650 AC Cord for High-End Sub: Your Knowledgeable Vote, Please posted by Norm on November 24, 2002 at 19:02:52:
Are you talking about the power cord from the wall,conditioner or UPS to the unit? $500-600 dollars? I am probably way off base here and have been out of the hobby for a few years but to me that seems a bit strange for the power cord to be so much money or even make any differece unless the ones you are using right now cannot handle the amp loading, then if so, just put larger wire on it. I know many people are big into the interconnects, but now the power cords too? I know it sounds like I am trying to be a comic, but I am not on this, I just want to know if this is actually serious or has some company hit a niche market on selling a few feet of high quality wire for power cords to those willing to pay... What are we going to do about the quality of the wire from your wall socket all the way to the step down transformer in your neighborhood, then to the sub station, then to the high tension lines all the way to the generationg station? Are they effecting your audio quality?
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Actually, I think ac cords make more of a difference than interconnects. Like you I thought this implausible but experience has proven it. And yes, I am talking about from my Sound Application filter to the bass amp.
This has been much posted-upon. The last decade has shown astonishing awareness of the sonic differences produced by power cords and anti-vibrational treatments. This is not lunatic-fringe stuff, but readily audible. Many audiophiles will tell you that the mix of power cords on their equipment makes more of a difference to the ultimate sound than the interconnects or speaker cables. It's astonishing, it doesn't make sense, and it's true-- although it seems as though some equipment is more sensitive to either kinds of treatment than others. I, for instance, use middle-of-the-range Audio Research electronics, and the differences made by switching out power cords and/or balancing components on Aurios and/or Black Diamond Racing Pucks are distinct and readily audible (not to mention maddening). You could search the archives for discussions of the issue.Scott
Thanks, I was not aware that the power cords are so critical to a systems sound quality and I will do some reading on this as this thinking is new to me. But seriously and very logically, what about the rest of the wiring all the way back to the generating station, at least not to your breaker box. 99.9% of all residential or even light commercial where 110 outlets are used, use standard Romex type wire and hopefully at least 12 gauge on a 20-30 amp breaker. If an audiophile is to hold basic power cords to his system to such high importance, should he not change the wireing out to the same type they we are talking about here? A system is only good as the weakest link and putting this expensive wire ot the end of standard romex is the same as splicing your high end interconnect with one you get at wal-mart. Then on the other hand, if standard Romex is good stuff and eveyone can live with the fact that is really what is powering your system, why not just use it for your AC cables to keep is all matched and equal lengths? Its only about 5 per 100 feet and some good quality plugs are only a couple bucks. Again, I am not trying to down anyones knowledge or expereince on this as it has caught my attention and I am in a learning process here, but it completely goes against basic logic or even basic engineering, so this is why I must ask questions or point out basic facts as I see them.
It does go against basic knowledge and experiential supposition, and yet (as Galileo said) "it moves." Caelin Gabriel of Shunyata (who makes extremely fine power cords) explains that one shouldn't think of the power cable as an extension of the Romex, but rather as an extension (from the other direction) of the component's power supply. Some power cables, such as some of the Shunyatas and the Van den Hul Mainsstream, act to reduce noise from the line. And the quality of connectors, and wall outlets, also make a difference... you'll find lively debates on these subjects also if you use the "Search" function.Scott
is that the JBL Paragon????Very nice!
Thanks! Yes, that is a Paragon from 1965, the others are JBL C60 S8rs from 1969. Its all old stuff, but sounds ok!.
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