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In Reply to: RE: Tangram Le' Journey Continues... posted by el34eh@yahoo.com on April 09, 2024 at 16:12:20
Nice one el34, be sure interesting in your findings, Iam so enjoying my digital just now, just had a session listening to miles, sacd files from my ssd internal drive, 18 albums like this .
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Thanks Tangram,
As I've once again been told that I should avoid using the pure silver iec plug, reason being that silver itself is a soft material much like pure copper, and overtime need some form of springs to hold the blades intact..., so I'm thinking about just going back after another IeGO 8095 pure silver - rhodium plated version at $145, as well as use the CopperColour beryllium iec plugs on several cords, yet just plan to set the CopperColour pure silver aside for now, as my mind says that just maybe I'd rather not push the top end to much, as the A6 is after all a more brightly lit type of sound compared to say the PS Audio DSD NuWave | Pro-Ject | Denafrips DACs as well as the Aurender server, which we all much much warmer | creamier sounding, so for now I'm able to fully appreciate the sound as rendered from eith a silver plated copper or pure silver ac plug in tandem with either a silver plated copper or in-plated copper iec with great end results.
Something tells me it's time to look deep within and walk away while the going ( listening ) is good enough. As I once again can't possibly see the justification in adding $200-$375 plugs onto what is again essentially a $42 power cord, my sense of rationale has to hold true to what's proven value wise, and while certain Furutech types, other than their gold plated ones look tempting, I've to remain true to my sense of peace within as well as my fixed income of late, so not unneeded items other than looking to exchange the plating types on both of the Xangsane IC's, but to what?, do I go with silver plated copper ones, or maybe a pair of pure silver Pure Sonic connectors as shown above?, which retail for $150 for a quad set. As like you, I'm more than certain the stock gold plated connectors are holding both IC's back, as far as reaching ( hearing ) their full potential.
So it seems I'm not quite out of the woods just yet, so you'll see me around for a few more moths it appears.
Later Bro.
Edits: 04/11/24
Hmmmm, I don't share this view on the iec unplated copper or silver, as the base metal of plated ones are copper, so soft also, and what about the oyaide 01 wall socket ! Copper also. When the iec is pushed in to a male , and the AC active , they fuse together.
As you have the CC unplated silver iec, I highly recommend you try this with the unplated silver AC plug on your Eversolo. Iam enjoying my Zidoo digital like never before with this combination and suspect you could have this result also.
You're correct | as I've been listening to both of the CC pure silver plugs since 8:45AM, and am very very very impressed, there seems to be something going on here in conjunction with the Accuphase being a copper based design, which has altered its presentation even more than I'd have imagined. The added sense of resolution is off the charts as the saying goes..., and each note seemingly bends around the corners within our living space as if the artist are placed not only outside the parameters of the speakers outermost cabinets, but actually flow into the rear most placement just slightly behind our sofa which is placed 10' away from where I'm centrally located at 2' away from the system laying on the floor.
I was about to ship the CC pure silver iec back, but logically I felt since it's always in place, why not just give it a listen, and as it's usually the case, I was able to decipher what was going on within my usual 2-3 tracks. I can't again speak for others, but this has simply become a remarkable power cord which to my mind far eclipses the previous ones costing upwards of $800, which was always my set budget on cords, at times I'd chance upon ones used which retailed for $1.600 at said price, and even they've been sold off, in favor of the Xangsane PCs | currently said Accuphase are serving their purpose to an extreme, the only items I'm looking to change out once again are the actual RCA input connectors on both the Xangsane IC's | rear of both the everSOLO | integrated amps, so seemingly there aren't many choices I'd go with besides rhodium or unplated copper versions from either Viborg or Aeco at this point, taking cost into account.
Thanks again for being the guiding light through said curiosity phases during this particular journey | it has been a mind blowing ride, of which has once again only enhanced my overall system's performance that much more. Whom would've thunk it?, look Ma, no need to sell off anther component in search of the absolute illusion, logically I've always been a Tweaker at heart, and much rather try to extract the last ounce of musicality ( if it's there to begin with? ) from electronics and speakers of late, especially after having went laterally two years ago and feeling I'd have saved $8.000 on lesser items, and been much much happier in the long haul..., said mistakes can only be seen as a learning experience | curve in order to not repeat them over and over again.
The generalization of items from aboard hold true, in my mind the Japanese make the best cables | cartridges | tube amplification, and I've always seen Accuphase solid state gear as the very very best I've encountered, yet I've to give it up to both the Brits | German for some very creative turntables and speakers as well, whereas once again , I truthfully believe the Chinese cabling industry has caught on, so those that continue to think it's junk, without even given their cables a listen be damned and then some, I hear what I hear, and am at the very least willing to be open-minded enough to explore the possibilities of " what if? ".
No going back on my end " I'm home where I belong ". And once again consider myself in a far better place that I've been since the periods between 1985-2006, before getting burned out the gear and took several years off and sold everything and found myself starting from scratch in late 2009, as I often tell the wife, had I only knew then what I know today, life would've been much easier | enjoyable all the same.
Until next time | stay true to the cause | as well as to yourself | dreams.
O_o scar
Nice one el34, there is no denying the synergy between the CC connectors pure silver at both ends of the Accuphase 40th wire, and the wire itself, unlike any plating types tried. They just get out of the way and let the musicality out, in a very involving less colored way, at least your urges to try whatever else in the AC department will diminish I suspect ! You may find some off days for several weeks until burn in complete.
When I changed my main run of IC ( Xangsane 9003) xlr IC to the Viborg unplated silver xlr , I remember similar encounters to said above, I just have to complete this by doing this with my external dac or phono stage IC leading to my preamp, however, I will wait for the sale to arrive. This then finalises my AC and IC journey.
Oh and my subwoofer Accuphase 3 meter power chord arrived...-...-.
Thanks Tangram.
It seems the combinations that worked out the best for me are in the following order, (1) pure silver at both ends of the cord (2) pure silver ac | copper iec (3) silver plated copper at both ends (4) silver plated copper ac | copper iec.
It once again came down to the key realization being which order each struck accord with me on an emotional level the most, as you've stated the wiring ( whatever offshoot brand it maybe? ) within the Accuphase 40th itself?, was done ( voiced ) right, and you're correct I no longer need to look any further cord wise, as this is good enough for me | then some.
I was thinking I'd have to go back and find your post on which type of plating or un-plated plugs you were using with your IC's, so thanks for mentioning they're in fact pure silver ones as well, in said case as I only own one of the five integrated amps that's is actually fully balanced that can be used with the everSOLO, I'll concentrate on getting a set of the Aeco pure silver RCA connectors as well..., as the Viborg ones are a tad more costlier than I'd like to spend.
Maybe at some point in the near future, I'd once again commission someone to solder said plugs onto my pair of Xangsane XS-9001 IC's?, as my skill set is solely lacking in this one area.
Truth is the Accuphase cord came out of curiosity | yet I've ended up with four of them here as well, might I ask which brands of subs you're using?, as I don't believe in using them, but am still curious about the options worth looking at?, for friends | associates that do, as a means of passing said information along.
It seems both of our journeys on said power cords have reached an end, where oh where do each of us go from here?.
Thanks again.
O_o
Very good el34, Iam using a Arendal dual opposed sub from Europe , it provides the foundation and integrates very musically with a dsp antimode device, I have now introduced my ten year old plus neodio dac with the Zidoo, where it is easily is in another universe than the Zidoo built in dac, and it should as it cost me back then, so now as it's connected via usb, I may explore a lhy audio usb reclocker @ 30 day trial period and see where that takes me. I too would like to possibly experience the dmp8 Eversolo , once I sold some items, however I will leave it at least some six months until some further batches are produced, having a built in anologue preamp is of high interest here. Maybe they will produce them in silver also !
Thanks for the update on your sub | as well as your plans on upgrading key equipment within your system, as my mind once again tells me it all begins at the source. I mean c'mon relying upon a $200 turntable or DAC ( music server ) as the beginning of one's chain driving say $30.000 speakers is beyond me. I'd far rather do like many had discovered back in the early 80s, by driving said a then pair of the original Wharfedale Dimonds with a Krell KSA 200, which would produce all sort of low end bass ( mid-bass ) rumbling from said speakers and was very very impressive to say the least.
I myself was looking into adding the Gustard Audio N18 ( silver | $389 ) Audiophile grade Ethernet Switch, but I'm somewhat torn between this and just adding two of the iFi Audio LAN iSilencers into the mix as well. As I too would think that even a 5-10 year old Neodio DAC could easily see many of the so-called modern DAC's upwards of $5000 off with ease as it's a very very stunning design to behold, of which I'd buy it alongside its matching integrated amp if I had the funds in a minute, such are the aesthetic appeal on my end, as I buy with both my ears | eyes it seems, i5 has to have a polished look even to gain access into our home.
I'd think it'd make sense to go to the Zidoo forum and make said suggestion for an option for silver finished products, provided it might be a sandblasted type, as the finish on several of the Denafrips DACs I've owned would showcase fingerprints | lint within the surface areas as if built in, which proved very difficult for me to clean, even after having purchased about 5 different aluminum cleaning agents to do so, but I've to get it up to the silver finished Gustard X20 Pro DAC, which was the best I had ( and have ) ever laid eyes upon, thanks again for your willingness to share this one with me Sondek, only thing was it taught me to avoid anything with digital readout, due to having had several DACs ( items ) displays become burnt out in areas within their screens which for me was definitely a no-no, regardless of sound, where it'd have made more sense had the manufacture made them where said displays could be cut off all together, as opposed to merely being dimmed, this burnt out shit still came through even in a darkened room.
So for me, it seems it's the digital side of things that require my attention | as always let the journey continue...-, I'll see you around.
Peace Be Onto You | Yours.
O_o.
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