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My son is enjoying the cables I put together for his HD6XX headphones.
First impressions relayed to me included typical comments such as hearing things that weren't there before. But one quantifiable observation I thought interesting was that he found he has been setting the volume control lower.
The Mogami W3159 recommended by Duster were great to work with, using one per channel, no messing around with braiding or "Y" splitting.
Cardas and Neutrik connectors attached at the ends with WBT silver solder.
My son put this system together recently. Schiit Vali 2 amp and Modi Dac. Sadly due to Covid-19 I have yet to hear it.
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
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Agreed. Used W3159 terminated with KLEI Absolutes for a 1' "jumper" IC between my Freya+ and Loki. Excellent result.
Good to hear! I did purchase extra W3159 cable on Duster's recommendation to also try as interconnect. Not sure if I'll go the bullet plug route. Though the cable diameter reduction grommet offered for those as an option would probably give a nice finish
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
FWIW, the supplied grommets are a perfect fit with the smaller dia. 3159. Makes for a nice looking finished product. :)
Oh man! I'm feeling the pressure to build some cables sooner than I planned. Not fair! Thanks so much for the info!
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
I found that a 1 M or longer IC concocted from 3159 can sound somewhat thin if a system is skewed to the analytical side. A better fit in systems that are warm to begin with. Tubes would be your friend in this case. But as always, YMMV.
Ah. Good to keep in mind. Being low cost the temptation is to add extra length for DIY interconnects.
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
Mick Wolfe's comment about the W3159 sounding a bit thin for an interconnect application can be addressed by the use of a medium to high-mass rca connector, rather than a silver or silver-plated low-mass rca connector. The gold-plated Furutech FP-126(G) rca connector comes to mind, since the sonic signature due to the solid copper center pin sounds full-bodied with good musicality, including a generous but still articulate bottom-end.
Edits: 04/30/21
Appreciate the advice. Nice looking plugs.
I was originally going to buy the Canare F-10's you suggested.
Will see where things are at next time I place an order of supplies.
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
The Canare RCA connector was suggested to include within your single order from Redco. The Canare F-10 is the best option they carry, and would still be a good low-cost option if a pro audio RCA connector with a brass base metal would be satisfactory for the price.
The Furutech RCA connector is an audiophile-quality option with a higher price tag if a more serious DIY cable build is considered within a budget-level.
One thing about sourcing a low-cost, high-performance bulk audio cable is to consider splurging on a set of high-performance connectors in order to get the best out of the cable, since there are no pro audio RCA connectors that perform as well as a bonafide audiophile-quality product.
Ah. That worked out well then. That was my first order at Redco. I don't often order parts, but when I do it is usually from Partsconnexion. Furutech is a brand they carry. Thanks again.
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
Parts Connexion stocks the gold-plated Aeco ARP-4045 RCA connector that would likely be a good candidate as a low-mass design for use with the Mogami W3159 interconnect cable, and substantially less expensive than the higher-mass Furutech FP-126(G) RCA connector. The bottom-end is full-bodied, with a sweet treble characteristic. They are easy to work with, but plugging the connector into a jack as a heat sink should be used when soldering in order to avoid thermally stressing the plastic dielectric. Aeco RCA Connectors are outstanding options that I prefer vs. a number of other high-performance choices.
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Ah. That is a nice gold plated option. Thanks for this.
Cheers!
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
Thx Duster. That RCA and its lugs look far more user friendly for DIY/soldering than any of the others I've used.
I am making a set of ICs right now out of Mogami 2549 and KLE Absolute Harmony RCAs. The optional grommet is much too small to use with that cable, so I doubt it will work with the 3159. I am just going to build the cable up with heatshrink and snug the set screws against it.
It's strange that the grommets are optional now. The first set of KLE RCAs I bought a few years ago came with them. They used to come with packaging, too, but now they just come in a generic baggie from Parts Connexion.
I just ordered another set from Sonic Craft. We'll see if they come with the grommets and proper packaging.
If you order the grommets from Parts Connexion, make sure you order a quantity of four. If you order one, you get a single grommet. It's kind of misleading since the pic shows four, but I take full responsibility as I did not read the description.
OK, thanks for the heads-up regarding order quantity and diameter. Will likely be a fall project, but you never know!
Cheers!
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
I just tried again and the grommets do fit over the 2549 cable. You just have to stretch the hole opened with small needle nose pliers while inserting the cable.
Nice! That will work well for you as well then.
The W3159 diameter is a couple millimeters narrower than yours. So that would also leave room for a Techflex jacket too. The W3159 is meant for internal wiring and additional protection was kindly recommended by Duster.
Jonesy
"I know just enough to get into trouble. But not enough to get out of it."
I see that now. 2549 is 6mm in diameter and 3159 is 3.2mm in diameter. You will have no problem at all. The 3159 is so skinny that you will probably have to build the cable up with heat shrink under the grommet (in the area where the setscrews are) to provide better strain relief. I'll even be doing that with my larger 2549 if I ever get the other 3 grommets.
Just curious? I have a set of Mogami Studio Gold which I use from DAC to PRE.......
Any idea what the cable used in the manufacture is? The Mogami number would be nice......
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