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I am going to make some power cables for the digital part of my system, the dac and cd transport. For the dac I have ordered Oyaide Black Mamba cable and MPS Hercules connecters. The cable has a drain wire from the shield which you are suppose to attach to one of the connector grounds. My question is does it matter which connecter, the IEC or the male end, that I use. I have seen diy recipes using each one. For my second cable I am going to use Furutech FP-S022n for my transport. My question is should I "comb out" a shield end and attach this to one of the grounds? Also is 14 gauge big enough? Thanks
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Connect the drain wire to the ground of the AC plug, and leave it unconnected at the IEC connector end.
The braided shield should be splayed and gathered, then twisted into a bundle to insert into the ground termination slot of the AC plug only.
14 AWG is "big enough", but tends to sound less full-bodied than larger gauge power cords, even for source components, Kim S.
The common wisdom is to attach the drain to the wall/male end, but not at the component/female end.Just a suggestion, and I have no idea if length is correct for your application, but the Oyaide Black Mamba-Σ V2 power cords are almost a no-brainer, and you don't have to build them. I use them on all components.
Edits: 02/05/21
Thanks everyone for your replies. Sondek I saw that cable on Ebay and wondered about its quality. I have ordered the parts for one cable so I just might buy the ready made one for the second.
It has Oyaide R0 connectors and Mamba in between. It's exceedingly well made. Very neutral and transparent. My only beef is that there's just the one color, but then I didn't exactly buy them for their looks. Very pleased with them.
Good deal. I just ordered the cable. If I like it I'll get one for my preamp.
Let us know what you think of it after you've had some time with it.
I use four of them. Amps, preamp and CD machine.
In furtherance of full disclosure, it was our very own Duster that turned me on to them.
Thanks again for that tip, Duster.
Always glad to share my findings in the forum, and always a pleasure to discuss various matters with AA Inmates such as yourself, Sondek.
Yep, only $235 for a power chord assembly, definitely a no brainer.
I love the smell of Schadenfreude in the morning- Robert Seckler
By the time you buy the connectors, the cable and the techflex, there's just not that much saving to be had DIY.
I've DIY'd my share of cables, and many think it's fun to build them, but I always found it a PITA. The small premium to have Oyaide do it all in their factory is worth to me.
The op did say he was using the Black Mamba so I retract my such a deal comment. Must be getting old.
I love the smell of Schadenfreude in the morning- Robert Seckler
Shit happens. No worries.
This has been covered quite a bit. Do a search here and on the web. You will find you answer on how to do this. Good Luck!
Cougar,
After days of searching I see you have experience with Neotech. I am wanting to change my Furutech FP-TCS31 to something with more "meat on the bones" and bottom end for my Amplifier. My outlet is a Furutech NCF and my contenders for a new amp PC are.
Neotech NEP-3200
Neotech NEP-3002 III
Furutech FP-S55N
I do want more body, but I don't want anything too dull. I am intrigued by the NEP 3200?
The Furutech FP-TCS31 is better suited for source components, and even then, the presentation sounds rather soft, not particularly firm sounding for some applications. I find it sounds the best when used as a power cord for a power line conditioner that feeds digital source components, Aaron 01.
I recommend the Acoustic Revive 8800 bulk power cable for power amplification. The 8800 is only a bit more expensive than the Oyaide Black Mamba V2 bulk power cable, and when a 3 meter length is ordered direct from Japan, you can build two quite affordable 5 foot (1.5 meter) power cords with it.
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Hi Duster,
I am curious as to why your recommend the Acoustic Revive 8800 over the Furutech FP-S55N, is it because of the lack of braid on the AR?
Also the 8800 is 12 AWG compared to the FP-S55N which it 10 AWG. I did find the AR makes a 10 AWG which is the C18000, but that is more expensive than the Furutech.
One more, I did also find mention while searching of this cable which seems very similar to the Acoustic Revive, Nanotech 308 and 309. Here it is with in house terminations for less than the Acoustic Revive, any thoughts or experience with the Nanotech? It is available from a US distributor.
Thanks,
I recommended the 8800 for power amplification in and of itself rather than instead of the FP-S55N, which is based on the Nano Liquid solution technology of the Nanotec #306, so the designs are similar. You simply have another option to choose from, since the 8800 rivals more expensive power cords for power amplification.
Hi Duster,
You said "
The Furutech FP-TCS31 is better suited for source components, and even then, the presentation sounds rather soft, not particularly firm sounding for some applications."
You sure were spot on sir. I decided to play around and move some PCs on my system this weekend, I can't believe I didn't try more of what I already had. Took the FP-TCS31 out and used a Flavor 4 on my amp and DAC. Talk about meat on the bones, clarity and slam, it was like a new breath of life came about. The only downside is with both Flavor 4's in place the system can slam but it is not very smooth, a bit rough around the edges.
Keeping the Flavor 4 on the amp and putting the FP-TCS31 regained the smooth sound, female voices so good along with acoustical instruments. Moving to my "torture track for rock" Pink Floyd's Young Lust, my system had all the hit of a wet noodle with the Furutech on the DAC, returning to F4 on the DAC and also still on them amp the system now hits like Babe Ruth, SLAM but rough again!
For now I am keeping the F4 on the amp, and put an old school first gen Audience Power Chord on the DAC, retains most of the slam and smoother than the F4, not a bad sounding combo.
So now I am afraid to get the FP-S55N as I am worried that the shielding my hurt the dynamics.
I am thinking of either the Acoustic Revive or the Nanotech at this point.
Another option I found is there is still a seller here in the US (legit dealer) who has some stock of the Furutech Alpha 3, unshielded in stock.
Any thoughts on these 3?
The unshielded Furutech Alpha 3 is better suited for amplification, and for source components an unshielded power cord is also advisable, since keep in mind the affectation of the shielding is not so much for the benefit of the component its connected to, it's to protect adjacent audio cables and components from EMI radiated from the power cord. For the most part, I avoid shielded power cables since keeping audio cables that are sensitive to EMI away from an unshielded power cord is a better sounding approach.
The sonic effect of the very thin pure copper floating shield of the Acoustic Revive 8800 and the grounded very thin pure copper shield of the Oyaide Black Mamba V2 is so mild, they should not be considered in the same category as a heavy-handed braided shield or aluminum foil shielded power cable tends to produce. I prefer the 8800 vs. the Alpha 3 since Furutech power cords and signal cables are not as impressive as the performance of their connectors.
Aaron, are you using your cables as a way for tone control?
Cougar,
I am not trying to use them as tone controls, but different cables do have different characteristics that will match components and personal tastes differently. The Furutech FP-TCS31 was not a match for my system or music. It is not to say that it is a bad cable, just not for me, but it could be great for someone else based on their components and music taste.
Why do you want to change from the Furutech FP-TCS31 cable? Explain what you mean about "meat on the bones"? What are you experiencing with your system that you would want to change it out? From what I saw @ VH Audio that is a very expensive cable per foot and more that what I have paid for my Neotech Power cables. how is your system set up now with amp, power cords, interconnects to amp, and speakers and speaker setup? So we can help you better.
Edits: 02/05/21
"meat on the bones" refers to more weight, depth and authority from the mids down. Years back I was using a VH Audio Flavor 4, that had more low end umph. I have since moved the Flavor 4 to my DAC. The current FP-TCS31 is more open with a larger soundstage over the Flavor 4, but I was never quite happy with is in the lower end. Since moving to the Moon amp this is showing up more in needing more beef at the bottom and mid.
I also emailed Chris at VH Audio and he suggested the Furutech FPS-55N over the Neotech NEP-3200. Chris even said the the NEP-3200 may be more towards analytical/clinical side of neutral than my current FP-TCS31. This surprised me since I thought the 3200 was a darker cable? I will have to respect his judgement since he is usually right and has experience with both cables.
The rest of my system is under my profile.
It's hard to say what will work and won't until you try it. To be honest, when some thing like this happens to me when I stepped up in a power cord the first time I put my braided 12awg DIY solid core power cord back in with good results and the beef came back. I have since moved on to different cables as you have seen for the gear I now use. But I do still use the DIY power cable and even still use it the main Power cord distribution block, these fair away from any RF or EMI source. Sometimes you just have to play with different cords until you find what you like. It took me many years to get the right combo in my system to work for me.
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