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In Reply to: RE: I still may try the Neotech bulk speaker cables.... posted by Cougar on January 28, 2021 at 09:52:22
Sounds like you've already have a plan Cougar. Good luck, and do hope you will like the sound afterwards.
I just looked up those Furutech spades you have, and given your shotgun/bi-cable configuration, it would require 12 of those - so those spades are much more costly than the cable :). At least they've got set screws, and so removing them after displeasure would be easy. A high quality crimp sleeve, as Duster suggested, is probably a good idea if you can get 2 wires to fit. But don't see a 6awg version from Furutech.
I'll have to do some homework on parts/prices....
Follow Ups:
Just the wires into the spades first and tighten them down with the set screws which are gold plated. If everything is good, I will put heat shrink over it to make it sit tight as possible. I have seen pics of them done that way with clear heat shrink that looks like it sealed both ends quite well.
If it doesn't work then I will try another way. This is all trail and finding out what works best.
Btw, the cable and spade connectors came to almost the same. I got a good deal on the spades awhile back. Still both a lot cheaper than the Neotech speaker wire I'm looking at.
Hi Cougar,
Was looking at the Neotech NES-3004 MKII, that cable have 8 conductors. While that would accomplish this 'shotgun' configuration as you've described, I'm not sure if the way each pair is twisted have any impact to the configuration. Or if using a single cable is less beneficial than two cables separately.
Looking at the pictures, all the conductors in that cable are in red/black jackets, but that will be easy to figure out which cable is which at each end. One complication would be trying to stuff 4 conductors into a single spade, but 1 spade per two conductors would make that easier.
and just for a pair if single run cables would be over $300 and over $600 for External Bi-Wire in the lengths I need. So Trying the Mogami first will be the best choice now for me and my system for now.
Hopefully this Mogami cable with be a sleeper cable with the Furutech Rhodium Spades.
If I do step up and that's a maybe, The Neotech NES 3004 MKIII would be my choice and I would do the cabling per Jon R. recipe and it's highly recommended when building that speaker cable.
Thanks Cougar. I have to look up the Jon R recipe - read about it once upon a time.
The 3004 MKII (8 conductor) is a little less than double the Mogami cable cost, but would be a single cable from amp to speaker. I was just wondering if there are 'concerns' using a single 8 conductor cable to accomplish what you're doing with the bi-cable shotgun configuration with the Mogami. Just looking for options and asking questions. The Neotech is UP-OCC Cu whereas the Mogami is OFC Cu, but again at almost double the cost.
Would love to hear your opinions once you've heard the Mogami.
It's way more than the Mogami W3104. The Mogami was $106 for 18' feet of cable. The Neotech NES 3003 MKII came out to $324 for the same length.
Edits: 01/29/21
Sorry for the confusion Cougar, you're correct that the 3004 mkII cable would be ~$324 for 18ft. However, with the 3004, you'd only need half of that length as it's an 8 conductor cable.
But been reading some good reviews on the Mogami. Decisions, decisions....
The Neotech NES 3004 MKIII would be $432 for 18' and the Neotech NES 3003 MKII would be $324.
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