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In Reply to: RE: ATTENTION DUSTER-SAN!! posted by tweaker456 on July 07, 2020 at 11:56:16
No need to ask.
Its written on his diy site a few times in the directions to some projects (where the wire is specified)
For the DIY class A amp: "Use 16-gauge wiring in the power supply and amplifier output connections, while 24-gauge wire is adequate for other connections."
When I was first using the thin magwire I had a carver A500x and then a Pass x-150. I have looked inside the pass and dont recall seeing 12g wire. Maybe it was there but I don't think so and why would Nelson spec 16g for the diy stuff and use something different in his own amps? He doesn't strike me as some one who would do that.
My Parasound A21s are in storage or i would check them out.
And knowing just a bit about how the audiophile marketing teams work, if there were 12g in amps it would be a headline and on the amps specs sheet and everyone would play the gauge game. Maybe I missed it because I took a break but I don't recall amps even talking about the wire gauge in their amps. Or speakers for that matter.
Did you try it yet? Or are you just going to do thought experiments and snipe?
If you have short runs like the op give it a try. And while it has been reported that I somehow think a run of 24g solidcore magwire is optimum, its not, but it is a good start. Geometry and construction play a big part as well. But like I said it replaced my 4tc...
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Thanks for the reply. Still, if you think he is being inconsistent you can always contact him and ask anything you want. I myself am impressed with the recommendation of the use of 16 AWG in the output.Likely considerably larger than many other amps would use would be my guess. His recommendation for diy people isn't necessarily what he would use or always use. There are always price considerations in a commercial product along with the difficulty of using very large gauge wires to say go from a board to the output devices. I have done experimentation with different gauge wire in different situations.First experiments were egged on by Pierre Sprey a long long time ago. You like wire even thinner than Sprey uses. My take on it,once again, can be found by a search on this asylum. Needless to say I differ from Sprey along with the vast majority of the rest of the audio world. Are you a jazz fan dawnrazor? Tweaker456
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Tweaker456
Have you seen the pricing on the pass gear? Not sure mr. Pass is worried about price considerations. But if he is wow I am glad he is!
Jazz fan? Nah. I have some disks. Last night I was listening to some Kendra shank that was recorded pretty well. Patricia barber is one of my test tracks. But jazz mostly bores me and its right behind classical in that regard.
These days I have become a sort of bass head listening to some techno stuff for lack of a better word. Mostly alternative and 80s goth really. Some dark metal and 80s punk.
Did you also use the Sprey concept of extra long speaker cables? I never ever got that idea.
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"Not sure mr. Pass is worried about price considerations." Well you might not be but I sure am sure. Will take that bet any day of the week.
"Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe." Tweaker456
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