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In Reply to: RE: Fake Nordost Odin interconnects from China posted by KanedaK on December 29, 2019 at 00:01:35
A "high end replica" fake watch that looks stunning is a different animal than an audio cable, since a cable is not about looks, and its function is not like a fake watch that might keep good time like a cheap watch can do.
So keep in mind it might feel like you are getting near the "high-end" if you buy a fake cable, but it simply won't sound like the real thing, and a better sounding authentic make/model cable with a less prestigious pedigree for the same price of the fake product is more than likely, it's almost assured.
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Of course, yet the particularity of Nordost cables is that you SEE the conductors and how they are built.
I'm not one second supposing that the fake Odin cable might sound as good as the real cable; but I can see on the pictures that the global construction is the same and conductors look extremely similar (which isn't the case with most other fake cables on which all you see is the outer jacket).
Assuming they use reasonable quality materials (which I believe is very likely), combined with the singular Nordost arrangement, it may be interesting. We all know (you especially) that the geometry of a cable plays as big a role as 99,99999purity OFC copper, at least for some aspects of the transmission.
Equal, not even in dreams; good for the price? we can't completely dismiss that possibility IMHO...
At 130 (or even 50)$ for a 50cm length I probably will try my luck someday.
Let's not forget that I use a 250$ Chinese DAC (SMSL SU-8), a 49$(!) Chinese active crossover that sounds fantastic, and a couple pocket-sized Chinese class D amps in my main, all horn-loaded system, and they all represent the absolute best bang for the buck in that particular context, used within their limitations; so I'm biased to believe there are gems hiding in the dark waters. (and I've come to all this after using regular, approved brands for the last twenty years). Yet my VDH cables cost more than those electronics - only the CD drive and preamplifier have pedigree.
Of course, one could argue that the goal here is to sell a fake product, a gimmick, and sound quality may have been completely forgotten; but maybe we can consider that if they manage to make a 250$ DAC that sounds way above its class, then it would be very easy for them to make a 200$ cable that sounds glorious. If, and that is the question here, they actually cared about that aspect.
Edits: 12/30/19
What Chinese active crossover do you use? Can you link to where you got it, please?
I have a "loom" of the ODIN2 and also the Xangsane XS-9003Ag cables.I found that I preferred the Valhalla2 SC with either set.The "Accuphase 40th Anniversary replaced the PCs on all amplification/subwoofers-a nice touch.Even feeding the Puritan 156.
It appears that the XS-950 PC (sterling silver) was discontinued.Found several that were visually similar, but did not say sterling silver (just silver plated).These were extremely open and had a very large soundstage (transport/dac).Still liked the Grey Knight on the preamp/linestage.
Hope this has helped those considering venturing out into these waters.
I've rarely been impressed with a Chinese cable nor connector except from a low-budget perspective. There are legitimate Taiwanese companies and only a couple of Chinese companies that produce credible sounding cables/connectors. None of them resort to offering counterfeit cables posing as the real thing. I think it does a disservice to audiophilia to purchase a blatant rip-off. High-value, moderate-cost Chinese DACs and PSUs based on various well-known circuits are not fakes, and can be appreciated for what they are. I own and enjoy several Chinese DACs and PSUs within a number of audio systems.
(I've sent you an email with some links)
I did not receive your email message, KanedaK...
I respect your knowledge in the matter and if I ever buy one of those it will be more out of curiosity than real expectations - and if it sucks, I'll remember your words ;)
Can you post a link to the product, KanedaK? I'd like to ponder it, then post my 2 euro cents worth.
I'm a little bit wary of posting a link to a fake product in here. I feel uncomfortable enough WRITING about it, but posting a link to the actual product... I will send it to you by PM :)
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